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  Newspaper article on Conventions—why so glowing?

  by Londo111 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  every year in dozens of cities where conventions are being held, newspapers typically write an article about the event.

  there are exceptions, but usually it is like the articles above.

  i would love to see more newspaper articles that did some actual objective reporting, rather than puff pieces.

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  Doubtfully Yours:

  Conventions of "bikers or tattoo enthusiasts or politicians" do not encourage shunning family members and friends, to not take blood transfusions in emergencies, selling homes and take lesser paying jobs to proselytize "where the need is greater", forgo higher education, ramp up apocalyptic doomsday fears, ect, ect...
  

  And I'm not saying that journalists should not report anything positive they might observe...but do more robust reporting on what is really taught at the convention and how it affects people.
  
  
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  Newspaper article on Conventions—why so glowing?

  by Londo111 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  every year in dozens of cities where conventions are being held, newspapers typically write an article about the event.

  there are exceptions, but usually it is like the articles above.

  i would love to see more newspaper articles that did some actual objective reporting, rather than puff pieces.

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  Londo111

  Every year in dozens of cities where conventions are being held, newspapers typically write an article about the event. There are exceptions, but usually they print articles like these:

  http://www.gazettes.com/entertainment/jehovah-s-witness-annual-convention-promotes-loyalty/article_d00965a6-1d1f-11e6-86b8-ef61aa9f3fae.html

  http://www.presstelegram.com/social-affairs/20160519/thousands-of-jehovahs-witnesses-will-kick-off-weekend-conventions-in-long-beach

  Typically, the journalist goes to the convention spokesman who gives the official spiel: “Loyalty is a big factor in our lives…And we teach how to display that.…One of the big focuses is how to positively impact the household and family…It’s a pretty positive experience.”
  

  Loyalty, family life, positivity! How nice!

  Of course, we know the alarming things that are really being taught at the convention. Rather than a positive experience, it is guilt inducing, apocalyptic and divisive to family life.

  I would love to see more newspaper articles that did some actual objective reporting, rather than puff pieces.
  

  Why do journalists write these puff pieces? Why do they tend not do a little digging and do a more objective article? What’s in it for them?
  

  One of the articles above highlighted how the conventions would bring into the city $64.5 million dollars. Does the money effect how the newspapers report on the conventions?

  I’ve no answers here. I’m just asking. And what can be done to remedy this?
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  Baptized niece crowned prom queen. Could her dad loose his MS appt?

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so my niece (not thru my brother but rather my wife) had been talking about going to her prom.

  the family had privately been somewhat doubtful that she would be allowed to go.

  the problem was that they kept promising she would be allowed but history has shown us that her parents tend to get her excited about things and then drop the denial on her at the last minute.

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  Not typical at all when I was in. I remember at an assembly a young lady gave her experience of wrestling with the desire to go, but ultimately not going. It's sad looking back.
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  The Ray Franz Saga

  by snugglebunny in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm just curious as to how it all happened.. to explain.

  many years back, before ex-jw websites, i called on a local lady in order to design an extension to her already enormous house.

  she was a young, voluptuous gal, married to a much older local business man who spared little expense in order to give his young wife whatever her heart desired.. we chatted for ages.

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  Fisherman: have you ever read Crisis of Conscience?
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  Are there more ex-witnesses than current witnesses?

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  2. friends

  for years the society has said that over 40,000 a year are disfellowshipped.

  add to that the 10's of thousands who simply disassociate or fade.... so by that logic, would it be correct to assume there are actually more former witnesses on the earth than the number of current active witnesses ?

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  And 2 out of 3 who were raised JW are no longer...

  This org likely has the highest turnover rate of them all.
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  Baptized niece crowned prom queen. Could her dad loose his MS appt?

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so my niece (not thru my brother but rather my wife) had been talking about going to her prom.

  the family had privately been somewhat doubtful that she would be allowed to go.

  the problem was that they kept promising she would be allowed but history has shown us that her parents tend to get her excited about things and then drop the denial on her at the last minute.

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  A ministerial servant father, a pioneer mother...and she still got to go to prom! Good for her!
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  May 21, 2016 TO ALL CONGREGATIONS Re: Annual Items for 2017

  by wifibandit in

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  2. beliefs

  may 21, 2016 to all congregations re: annual items for 2017.

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  No more calendar? This was clearly prophesied!

  "And the angel which I saw standing upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his right hand to heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created the heaven and the things that are therein, and the earth and the things that are therein, and the sea and the things that are therein, that there shall be time no longer"--Revelation 10:6

  Where's Lars when you need him?
  
  
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  Stories From the Back Room

  by xjwsrock in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  (i am still a serving elder.

  i have no idea how much longer i can stomach it.

  timing is terrible for stepping down right now, though.

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  I guess he met with the elders because, although inactive, he is still indoctrinated and considers them a divinely appointed authority.
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  Another "known unknown" for me: 1919

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  having grappled with this question, i decided to turn to the combined expertise at jwn.

  my questions relate to the watchtower's self-determined appointment in 1919:.

  how does the watchtower arrive at the year 1919 for its appointment?

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  Yep, the release of Rutherford and friends from prison is viewed as miraculous, a sign of divine approval on the organization. They point to interpretations of Ezekiel's bones, the two witnesses in Revelation 11 who are told "come on up here", the release of the Jews after the fall of Babylon, ect, ect...

  Chronologically they don't even try to calculate it.
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  You wear tight pants and you will be in trouble

  by wannaexit in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was reading in another forum, that a letter to the elders instructed them to speak to anybody who persists in wearing tight pants.

  if changes don't happen then the instructions are to disqualify him from being a publisher but it won't be announced to the congregation.

  i am am curious to see if this letter will surface.

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  Where in the world is "tight pants" a "problem" in this organization?

  When I was in, I never noticed it. Of course, I didn't spend any time contemplating the pants that men wore.