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  Flogging the Vat 4956 horse

  by MightierThanTheSword in

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  i'm just curious about something & wonder if the experts could help.. basically i am documenting all of the main lines of evidence for the jws being the one & then investigating each claim systematically.. i have now reached the dreaded november 1st, 2011 watchtower & am sitting in front of a copy of cartes du ciel and a babylonian calendar converter i found at http://www.staff.science.uu.nl/~gent0113/babylon/babycal_converter.htm.

  i realise these claims have been challenged and documented in depth elsewhere, but i'm keen to do my own research rather than copy & paste.

  my question is regarding date conversion - when inputting the gregorian dates as given at the bottom of the tablet's translation i found at http://www.caeno.org/pdf/f019_translation.pdf then the lunar positions all seemed pretty close (visually, i wasn't dealing with exact degrees here).

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  I don’t post as much since I’m still getting used to the new forum layout—besides I’ve no more need to keep this archaic research in my head anymore. I can put my mind toward more fruitful things. If Ann happens to see this, I’m sure she can give a good dissertation to many of the points previously mentioned in this thread.

  I’ve noticed the strategy of the Watchtower, as well as apologists, is to muddy the waters and create doubt. However, merely muddying the waters does not ‘prove’ 607 BC. And when one tests many of their claims, they evaporate under closer inspection. No amount of evidence will sway someone whose heart is desperately clinging to a pet theology. The best that can be done is to present the evidence to those who have ears to hear it.

  VAT 4956 records an observation for the summer equinox, which any astronomy software can help calculate. To find out with Year 37 began, simply count back from the summer equinox. It’s that simple. This rules out the explanation in the November 2011 Watchtower article that the year began in May.

  It is not just VAT 4956. It is not just the many other astronomical tablets. It is not just the thousands of economic tablets. It is not just the Egibi banking records. It is not just the Addagoppe Stele. It is not just the Hillah Stele. It is not just the Bible itself. And any other piece of evidence that I’m leaving out. It is ALL these combined. They all align…all the puzzle pieces fit harmoniously to confirm the Neo-Babylonian chronology.
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  Flogging the Vat 4956 horse

  by MightierThanTheSword in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm just curious about something & wonder if the experts could help.. basically i am documenting all of the main lines of evidence for the jws being the one & then investigating each claim systematically.. i have now reached the dreaded november 1st, 2011 watchtower & am sitting in front of a copy of cartes du ciel and a babylonian calendar converter i found at http://www.staff.science.uu.nl/~gent0113/babylon/babycal_converter.htm.

  i realise these claims have been challenged and documented in depth elsewhere, but i'm keen to do my own research rather than copy & paste.

  my question is regarding date conversion - when inputting the gregorian dates as given at the bottom of the tablet's translation i found at http://www.caeno.org/pdf/f019_translation.pdf then the lunar positions all seemed pretty close (visually, i wasn't dealing with exact degrees here).

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  Londo111

  Also:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjpRLknASOE&list=PLyNx0oM_bmgDJHQFzgm4L0rRuPpwTOVmz&index=15

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DV35cf6D8WY&list=PLyNx0oM_bmgDJHQFzgm4L0rRuPpwTOVmz&index=16
  
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  Flogging the Vat 4956 horse

  by MightierThanTheSword in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm just curious about something & wonder if the experts could help.. basically i am documenting all of the main lines of evidence for the jws being the one & then investigating each claim systematically.. i have now reached the dreaded november 1st, 2011 watchtower & am sitting in front of a copy of cartes du ciel and a babylonian calendar converter i found at http://www.staff.science.uu.nl/~gent0113/babylon/babycal_converter.htm.

  i realise these claims have been challenged and documented in depth elsewhere, but i'm keen to do my own research rather than copy & paste.

  my question is regarding date conversion - when inputting the gregorian dates as given at the bottom of the tablet's translation i found at http://www.caeno.org/pdf/f019_translation.pdf then the lunar positions all seemed pretty close (visually, i wasn't dealing with exact degrees here).

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  My research is as follows:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ltze4khcA8&index=27&list=PLyNx0oM_bmgDJHQFzgm4L0rRuPpwTOVmz

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOx7iUS_dEw&index=28&list=PLyNx0oM_bmgDJHQFzgm4L0rRuPpwTOVmz

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXnM2rh0i8s&index=29&list=PLyNx0oM_bmgDJHQFzgm4L0rRuPpwTOVmz

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmOUDC8g_tA&list=PLyNx0oM_bmgDJHQFzgm4L0rRuPpwTOVmz&index=30
  
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  BBC news--terrorist was raised a JW

  by stan livedeath in

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  i just caught bbc news--arrested terrorist was previously a jw before converting to islam

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  Had I too converted to another religion as a youth, my parents would have kicked me out of the house. Of this, I am 100% certain. 
  Through undue influence, the Watchtower organization sowed the seeds that caused the young man’s parents to take such inhumane measures. When he was kicked out, he became a vulnerable target. It was easy for him to fall into another extremist group.
  
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  Matthew 1:17 & 42 Generations

  by campaign of hate in

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  if we are to look at matthew 1:17, looks like there were 42 generations from abraham to jesus.. if we take 1948 bce (abraham's birth) and we take it to jesus baptisim (29 ce) we get to 1,977 years.. so lets divide 1977 years by 42 (the amount of generations), we get to around 47 years for one generation.. 1 generation = 47 years.. 1 generation + an overlapping generation (1 generation more) = 94 years.. this is all in the first chapter of the new testament..... comments welcome.....

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojCp5tgWXz8&list=PLyNx0oM_bmgAxVYyFIhblMu4Mo1PeMxn1&index=7
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  Noah preached 100-120 years and no followers. What the hell was he preaching?

  by James Mixon in

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  2. bible

  let me see if i have this straight.

  we are to believe noah preached over a 100 years with 0 effect.. the bible records that lamech, noah's father had sons and daughter's but the number is not included.

  to have a plural number of brothers and sisters, there would be at least four siblings, two brothers and two sisters.. my folks had 6 kids and 90 years later there are over 100 family members.. some say based on what's written in gen.6:3, noah preached anywhere between 100-120 years.

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  I should preface by saying I don't believe in a global flood as the Watchtower teaches some 4-5000 years ago and I mainly see this story allegorically. However, it's not unreasonable that a Mesopotamian flood occurred thousands of years ago that flooded all the land as far as the eye could see.

  With that said, 2 Peter 2:5, in some Bibles say, "a proclaimer of righteousness."

  The Greek word means, "a herald or messenger vested with public authority, who conveyed the official messages of kings, magistrates, princes, military commanders, or who gave a public summons or demand, and performed various other duties. In the NT God's ambassador, and the herald or proclaimer of the divine word."

  Within the framework of the story, could Noah simply have proclaimed to his family? Or have been a proclaimer by his actions, simply being a righteousness man in a violent world? Or been an ambassador the proclaimer by building the ark? And even being a preacher, does that mean going house to house? 

  The Watchtower retrofits door-to-door evangelizing, a modern invention, backwards and writes themselves into every story in the Bible. 

  
  
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  Is the UN really the disgusting thing?

  by StarTrekAngel in

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  been dwelling on this for a while.

  was there any particular history on this or anywhere where the wt picked up someone else's doctrine?.

  in most cases, the bible uses the word "disgusting thing" to refer to idols, idolatry and false religion.

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  It is simply the Roman armies...it has nothing to do with the UN or any modern day organization.
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  Who Is Engineering the Re-branding of Jehovahs Witnesses

  by millie210 in

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  is it an outside source?.

  an inside job?

  maybe the younger gb "helpers"?.

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  Rumor: New light comes from outside marketing consultants

  
  
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  The scared little girl in the basement

  by brandnew in

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  im kinda mad, its hard to shake off the look of that little girls face...standing in someones basement, scared.. why the hiding?

  if these people werent in this basement, would they be killed?

  all them years of studying and being loyal, and its come to this.......being scared in a basement....all bad !

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  The great thing about the Great Tribulation is that the JW dress code seems relaxed!
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  Some screenshots from new KH meeting!

  by pixel in

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  they just put up a link to watch a replay of the "new kh meeting", here some screenshots.. .

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  Londo111

  Thanks for posting!