http://corior.blogspot.com/2006/02/evolution-of-606-to-607-bce-in.html
A good link I found of the transition from 606 to 607 BC.
Londo111
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When Was Jerusalem Destroyed By The Babylonians?
by Smart incan someone explain in easy to understand language what this argument is all about.
i am not that clever.
i am hoping to talk to the elders about this as well as whoever is willing to talk about it on here.
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Londo111
Old-school JWs were readers. Of course, what they were reading was nonsense, but it was deep nonsense. It took some time to digest all the material they had to read. These people were more apt to give a courageous defense of their doctrines.
New-school JWs are not readers. Since 2000, the publications have been more fluffy and lite as time goes by. The public Watchtower and Awake are pretty flimsy. Modern JWs cannot defend their beliefs and the go-to strategy is to run.
A picture is worth a thousand words, as the saying goes. A multimedia presentation is more effective. Much of the content of Dub TV is emotional. The music, especially, is designed to tug at heartstrings. It could be that this Dub TV will be effective at keeping hardcore JWs in.
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do other religions change doctrines like the wt society does?
by sowhatnow ini just wondered.
i mean ok, the catholic church seems to make 'adjustments' more or less , by accepting previously held prejudices.
against certain things, like gays, or birth control, or rather tolerate it more, but is that a genuine change of doctrine?.
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Londo111
I’m not sure what JWs would do if the Watchtower stopped making “adjustments”. It is almost expected at a subconscious level.
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do other religions change doctrines like the wt society does?
by sowhatnow ini just wondered.
i mean ok, the catholic church seems to make 'adjustments' more or less , by accepting previously held prejudices.
against certain things, like gays, or birth control, or rather tolerate it more, but is that a genuine change of doctrine?.
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Londo111
In mainline Protestantism, people agree on a few basics, and are free to use their own conscience and reasoning to determine what they will believe and are free to change their minds on something whenever they want. Even if a person disagrees with the basics, I haven’t seen people bat an eyebrow.
For instance, in one church, I’ve seen people who believe in Trinity and those who don’t. Those who believe the Holy Spirit is a person and those who believe Holy Spirit is a “divine energy”. There are those who believe in universal salvation and those who don’t. Those who believe in preterism and those who believe in futurism. Millenniumism and amillenniumism. People are basically free to express themselves. No arguments erupt.
In fact, people can unite without having to agree on everything or to be told what they are supposed to believe. I’ve learned true unity doesn’t mean everyone has to be on the same page. Unity and freedom are not mutually exclusive.
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Londo111
I’m cutting and pasting from an email about this very topic:
When I went to visit my parents Saturday, it was like a scene from 1984.
My parents are TV addicts. They have that blasting all the time, even when they are doing other things. Well, with the new Dub TV and help from Roku, they can have that going ALL the time. It permeated everything…it was hard to think through it. It was constantly going, constantly streaming.
I hate to say it but the Borg came up with a good idea. It is a constant source of brainwashing…even when it’s not being watched, it’s in the background, seeping into the subconscious. All JW.org, all the time. There is no way of reasoning with a person under that spell. It is eerie seeing it being used like that.
They told me of the big screen TVs installed in the Kingdom Halls. My father remarked how he’d never thought he’d see the day.
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JWStruggle post: Bethel Layoffs Reveal a Kingdom without Clothes
by Londo111 inhttp://www.jwstruggle.com/2013/07/bethel-layoffs-reveal-a-kingdom-without-clothes/.
despite everything, i still have a lingering admiration toward those who serve or have served in bethel.
it is not that i believe it is gods organization in any way, shape, or form.
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Londo111
Thank you. Yes...and playing the 'imperfect men' card doesn't cut it when the organization is supposed to be a manifestation of the 1914 Kingdom.
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JWStruggle post: Bethel Layoffs Reveal a Kingdom without Clothes
by Londo111 inhttp://www.jwstruggle.com/2013/07/bethel-layoffs-reveal-a-kingdom-without-clothes/.
despite everything, i still have a lingering admiration toward those who serve or have served in bethel.
it is not that i believe it is gods organization in any way, shape, or form.
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Londo111
To all Bethelites and former Bethelites (especially those who were downsized):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwN4J-VZHic&list=PLyNx0oM_bmgDObKrZeV2TAX1jZdQUaGY8&index=3
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CONTI CASE - Further update appears - Interpretation please!
by AFRIKANMAN infiled letter from:.
rick simons, to notify the court of significant new authority not available at the time of the conclusion of briefing, and also to withdraw a previously submitted subsequent authority.. 11/20/2014.
calendar notice sent.
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Londo111
Chaserious: Thank you for the translation. We will likely depend on you to break this down to us in the coming months and years.
Hopefully we can one day say to the Watchtower: Ha! Ha!
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Cult books for JWS
by In_between_days ini recently purchased "combatting cult mind control" the book by steve hassen and found it very enlightening.
upon the conclusion of that book i did realise once and for all that i was indeed a victim of mind control and that the organisation of jehovahs witnesses certainly qualifies as a "destructive cult" the book was of special interest to me, beacuse it was not written by an ex jw , but by an ex moonie, thus the information is not biased, being particularly written for ex jws.
the similarities of the dubs and the moonies are quite eerie, although there are some differences.
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Londo111
The advantage of Combatting Cult Mind Control is that it does not mention Jehovah’s Witnesses. Therefore, it cannot be said to be critical or opposing the organization. This really helps the person waking up to process the information objectively.
The challenge would be to get a JW to read this book. It would be within the realm of possibility they would throw the book away. It all depends on how it is presented.
For instance, a non-JW might say, “I don’t know much about the religion you are getting involved in. I just read this book that helps a person evaluate the group they are joining. It doesn’t mention JWs. I figure there is no harm in you reading it and hearing your thoughts about it when you are done.”
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Dungeons and Dragons, Magic: The Gathering and all the stuff you weren't allowed to play as a JW
by marmot inby nature i'm a total geek.
i read the lord of the rings for the first time in grade 3 and i would probably have had a 20-sided die hung around my neck if it weren't for the silly superstitious restrictions against playing rpgs among jws.
if anything they should encourage role playing games among the youth because it'll keep them virgins forever.
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Londo111
A few years ago, I joined a small group to play Pathfinder (basically D&D). It was interesting and had some challenges, such as the ADD dungeonmaster losing interest in the story and switching to a new game. Or not having the energy to keep up with people 10-20 years younger than me. At midnight, I want to go to bed! I have to get up for work the next morning.
Back in the day, I had Bard's Tale on my Commodore 64. I figured since it wasn't called D&D I could play it. Eventually I was guilted into getting rid of it. :(