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  Why can't we have a kingdom hall?

  by road to nowhere in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was musing on how many small churches there are.

  a single congregation made of moderate income people.

  often the pastor has a job on the side.

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  truth_b_known

  Someone once made the observation that the more you hate a particular person or group the more you model yourself after said person or group. The Watchtower used to revel in attacking the Catholic church. The Watchtower would point a finger at Catholic cathedrals and the Vatican.

  Now, in order to "Worship Jehovah" you have to go to a Kingdom Hall. Meeting in private homes is forbidden. Where once the Watchtower was based in the largest city in the US and welcomed all visitors, now you must get permission to enter the gates of Wallkill like you would the Vatican Guard.
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  Jesus said ''help and feed the poor,'' not build large headquarters

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
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  i was watching a news report last night on the homeless people in chicago, who were living outdoors in extreme cold and snow.

  the homeless were seen living under bridges and street tunnels.. a missionary church called ''the night ministry'' was driving around helping the homeless with water, food , blankets and free rides to a local hospital if they were in need of medical care.

  talk about following the words of jesus!.

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  This is a prime reason why the Watchtower needs it's religious tax exemption yanked. I am thinking about contacting my US House Rep and requesting federal legislation that would mandate a minimum percentage of donations to religious organizations must be used to feed the hungry and house the poor, regardless of the recipients' religious denomination, to receive the tax exemption. I would ask other join in doing the same.
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  Allowed?

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a jobo i know has cancer.

  her son goes and cleans her house and generally cares for her.

  so does another non-jobo relative.. the congregation, interestingly, has shown very little support apart from the odd one rabbiting on about 'bible promises this and that'.. so, the co visited and said, 'but your son is an apostate(tm).

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  “A man was going down from London to Salisbury and fell victim to robbers, who stripped him, beat him, and went off, leaving him half-dead. Now by coincidence a Circuit Overseer was going down on that road, but when he saw him, he passed by on the opposite side. Likewise, an Elder, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the opposite side. But a certain apostate traveling the road came upon him, and at seeing him, he was moved with pity. So he approached him and bandaged his wounds, pouring oil and wine on them. Then he mounted him on his own animal and brought him to an inn and took care of him. The next day he took out two quid, gave them to the innkeeper, and said: ‘Take care of him, and whatever you spend besides this, I will repay you when I return.’ Who of these three seems to you to have made himself neighbor to the man who fell victim to the robbers?” He said: “The one who acted mercifully toward him.” Jesus then said to him: “Silly Rabbi, disfellowshipping if for those who associate with apostates.”
  
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  Allowed?

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a jobo i know has cancer.

  her son goes and cleans her house and generally cares for her.

  so does another non-jobo relative.. the congregation, interestingly, has shown very little support apart from the odd one rabbiting on about 'bible promises this and that'.. so, the co visited and said, 'but your son is an apostate(tm).

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  truth_b_known

  “A man was going down from London to Salisbury and fell victim to robbers, who stripped him, beat him, and went off, leaving him half-dead. Now by coincidence a Circuit Overseer was going down on that road, but when he saw him, he passed by on the opposite side. Likewise, an Elder, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the opposite side. But a certain apostate traveling the road came upon him, and at seeing him, he was moved with pity. So he approached him and bandaged his wounds, pouring oil and wine on them. Then he mounted him on his own animal and brought him to an inn and took care of him. The next day he took out two quid, gave them to the innkeeper, and said: ‘Take care of him, and whatever you spend besides this, I will repay you when I return.’ Who of these three seems to you to have made himself neighbor to the man who fell victim to the robbers?” He said: “The one who acted mercifully toward him.” Jesus then said to him: “Go and do the same yourself.”
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  For those of you who've watched the Witnesses documentary, let's suppose for a moment that...

  by My Name is of No Consequence in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  for those of you who've watched the witnesses documentary, let's suppose for a moment that the org was forced to make their database of abusers available to the courts.

  if this database is as detailed and meticulous as it is claimed, how in the world could the org (in its present form) survive that?

  assuming they don't go bankrupt after all of the new abuse claims, would they go underground, shut down the kingdom halls, stop the preaching?

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  truth_b_known

  https://www.inquirer.com/news/pennsylvania-grand-jury-investigating-jehovah-witnesses-sex-abuse-cover-up-20200209.html

  It is Pennsylvania and not New Jersey. My apologies.
  
  
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  For those of you who've watched the Witnesses documentary, let's suppose for a moment that...

  by My Name is of No Consequence in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  for those of you who've watched the witnesses documentary, let's suppose for a moment that the org was forced to make their database of abusers available to the courts.

  if this database is as detailed and meticulous as it is claimed, how in the world could the org (in its present form) survive that?

  assuming they don't go bankrupt after all of the new abuse claims, would they go underground, shut down the kingdom halls, stop the preaching?

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  truth_b_known

  let's suppose for a moment that the org was forced to make their database of abusers available to the courts.

  Who said it isn't. The problem is, to this point, the investigations have been either 1) Administrative in nature (e.g. government spearheaded, but not a criminal investigation by law enforcement) or, 2) a civil action taken by victim or victims.

  My understanding is that the Attorney General's Office of the State of New Jersey is officially launching a criminal investigation into the Watchtower for it's policy of not reporting child sex abuse to law enforcement authorities, which is a crime in many state in the US. Once that agency has sufficient probable cause, a Search Warrant signed by a state judge in New Jersey will fix all that. Literally, the AG's Office investigators will show up and take the Watchtower's servers by force. When I say servers I mean ever device capable of holding digital data.
  
  
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  Latest plans for, jDUMBS

  by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

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  2. friends

  this was in the dailytelegraph paper from australasia.

  the reason i copied it here is coz you have to be a paid memeber to read anything on their site.if anyone wants to check the source here it is.

  https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourcecode=dtweb_wre170_a_ggl&dest=https%3a%2f%2fwww.dailytelegraph.com.au%2fnewslocal%2fliverpool-leader%2fjehovahs-witnesses-australasia-proposes-film-studio-office-and-replica-biblical-site%2fnews-story%2f7997a66dbe24ef1a24beea6805d97d68&memtype=anonymous&mode=premium&v21suffix=61-a.

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  truth_b_known

  You too can have "food at the proper time" streamed directly into your home on your television or your mobile device with "Jehovah's Christian Network". For only a reoccurring donation of $15.99 a month on your credit card you too can partake of "meat in due season".

  Later that same week at the weekly meeting a letter is read -

  "As Jehovah's true servants we would only want to watch television programs that are spiritually clean and approved for viewing by the His earthly organization. ANY viewing of television programs not approved would demonstrate a clear and brazen act of disobedience toward Jehovah's Faith Slave and therefor Jehovah himself."
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  Algebra

  by HappyDad in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what the hell?

  it's after 4 am here in minnesota and my brain just won't shut down.

  of all things....in the middle of the night,algebra is bugging me.

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  truth_b_known

  He's from Minnesota. Strong chance of being a DFLer. Not that it really matters. Skol Vikings!
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  Algebra

  by HappyDad in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what the hell?

  it's after 4 am here in minnesota and my brain just won't shut down.

  of all things....in the middle of the night,algebra is bugging me.

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  truth_b_known

  I went to college. I obtained 2 degrees I have 20 years in a profession. I don't think I have ever used algebra at work, but some assignments in my profession do (vehicular crash reconstruction).

  My son wanted to go to college, but now wants to go to trade school. He will probably make more money than me right out of trade school. I am rather proud of that.
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  "I'm As Mad as Hell - and I'm not going to take it anymore" (First Principles)

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  two things we all need to know; may already know; have known for a long long time - but nothing at all has changed .... first principles.

  these are assumptions that cannot be deduced from any other proposition or assumption.. .

  (what the hell does that mean?).

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  truth_b_known

  I always like Gene Roddenberry's vision of the future. Of course, the problem with any utopia is that human nature tends to focus on the self and material/physical things and therefor make said utopia unobtainable.