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  Do you think the big A will come after Russia invades Ukraine?

  by Iamallcool in

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  any takers?

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  truth_b_known

  No. Revelation was about cryptic references to events that affected early Christians under the Roman empire during the first and early second centuries. Relevance to anything now, or to the future, is exactly zero.

  This person gets it.
  
  
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  What's the deal with Cheese and Apple Danishes at conventions.

  by pistolpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this was before my time, but there was this post that had 308 comments testifying that the best thing of being a jehovah witness back in the day was the convention's meals.

  is this true?.

  one quote out of 308;.

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  truth_b_known

  The breakfast sandwich was an egg McMuffin called muffin n egg, it to this day was the best egg McMuffin I've ever eaten.

  That's the dang truth!

  I also liked the ham and cheese sandwich. I ate at one Saturday afternoon session.

  The Shasta soda was nasty. Imagine gargling with salt water and then swallowing instead of spitting it out.
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  Norway Takes Appropriate Action Against Jehovah’s Witnesses

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  2. bible

  i hope other countries follow suit.. https://youtu.be/pfw9xzugcms.

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  Something tells me that the Watchtower will suddenly get new light on disfellowshipping before this spreads.

  Hopefully it includes a policy change that states if a person is legally considered a minor they are not eligible to be baptized. That would prevent minors from being disfellowshipped.
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  Counseling for Ex JW

  by Iamallcool in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have been thinking that it would be very nice if the us government would be willing to fund ex jw counseling services all over the united states.

  i understand that many counselors do not really understand ex jw issues but we can educate them if we have additional funds, etc…if someone here is willing to write a letter to their local representative about it, that would be great!

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  truth_b_known

  I do not think government funding is required to accomplish the same thing. I have seen users on this site state that their therapist/counsellor was no familiar with JW practices/doctrine. I experienced the same thing when I saw a counsellor.

  Perhaps a licensed counsellor/therapist could work with the eJW community in preparing a course of a book for counsellors to refer to when helping exJWs.
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  Freaky, unsettling, unnerving comment from Losch in his AGM talk

  by FFGhost in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  did anybody else catch it?.

  he said that people who come back in the earthly resurrection would be given a body "reasonably similar" to the one they had prior to death.. what the almighty hootch?.

  "similar"?.

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  This is a great example of a Watchtower doctrine that has absolutely no scriptural backing. Not to mention the whole concept of Watchtower resurrection doctrine makes no sense.

  The Watchtower teaches that when any human dies they cease to exist. The Watchtower teaches those Jehovah plans on resurrecting "live in His memory". Memory is memory; a token of the real thing. Ceasing to exist means you are not in any form or fashion. Therefor any person "resurrected" is a facsimile of the original person, regardless of what the body's appearance is, and is not the actual person.

  In order for a person to be resurrected their essence or soul would have to be eternal and put into a new body. That sounds more like Hindu reincarnation than it does Christian resurrection. Especially if the body your essence is put into doesn't even look like you.

  So the countless millions who are to be resurrected are more like a Watchtower version of Invasion of the Body Snatchers. It looks like you. It sounds like you. It has your memories. It's not you!
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  JW’s and Charity Organizations

  by longgone in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was wondering if anyone is aware of the jw’s in general being involved financially and/or as volunteers in charity organizations?

  i was a born in jw for 56 years and left in 2016. as far as i remember there was never any encouragement to help in the community in any way.

  including soup kitchens, tutoring at schools, united way, etc.

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  I was born-in as a Witness. I grew up in the 80s. I always heard from the platform that donating to charitable organizations was showing a lack of faith in Jehovah's kingdom to help mankind. The only donations we were to make with our money was to the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society.
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  AM III off topic remarks online @ jw.org

  by Gorb in

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  am iiii off topic remarks at the anual meeting, are online at broadcasting.. he says in the early 70s he did not believe the end was near, and told his sons not to believe jw's who stating the end is near because the system could go on to 2020.. g..

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  The cognitive dissonance makes my head spin.

  Watchtower - "This world is going to end. It could end any minute. If you do not get out you will perish forever!"

  Also Watchtower -"The end may not come in your naturally lifetime, but do not do anything to care for your material needs past today. That shows a lack of faith."

  Talk about wanting to eat your cake and have it too.
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  The "WE'RE ALL IMPERFECT" Theory.

  by pistolpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  a recurring theme in this loyd deal is the we're all imperfect-----------excuse!.

  the "we're all imperfect" phrase, is an over used watchtower membership cliche, embedded in the minds of jws and anyone that leaves.

  in the real world, there is no such thing as "we are all imperfect".

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  truth_b_known

  People engage in self destruction because of an emotional hunger, an emptiness that can't be filled no matter their view, or how hard they try to fix it.

  That was my point. You put it much better than I did, Sea Breeze.
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  Did You Miss Playing Sports?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  how many of you missed playing sports in school?

  the wt was merely trying to keep us from committing suicide.... how loving.take a look at this fear mongering :problems with sports today - g91 8/22 p. 5. .

  "people used to argue that sports were of value because they built character.... such arguments sound hollow, even hypocritical.. .

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  I wanted to play basketball in high school. My high school PE teachers were the football coaches and they wanted me to play center. I new there was no way my parents would ever allow that. My dad was an elder and would say, "If you play football in high school you can never be appointed as a Ministerial Servant or Elder."

  I played in an adult league when I was in my early 20s. That was fun! I just kept it to myself.

  As a parent my wife and I encouraged all our children to be involved in something at school. All our kids played sports for at least one school year. They also participated in band, orchestra, and theater. We couldn't be prouder of our kids.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses and logical fallacies

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  giles gray writes.

  here is a brief list of the most common arguments (or statements used in the construction of their arguments) jehovah’s witnesses make that are fallacious in nature:-.

  --we are the true religion because we only teach what is written in the bible.

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  truth_b_known

  What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

  In addition, evidence is not argument. I have yet to see any apologetics that provide evidence. Apologetics tries to prove claims through logical argument.