Waton:
I have no answer for you. I was only trying to answer the OP question.
truth_b_known
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Changed From "Disfellowshipped" to "No Longer One of Jehovah's Witnesses!
by Atlantis ina friend is trying to figure out the approximate date or letter, which indicated a change from the wording of public announcements.. they changed from saying the person has been disfellowshipped to saying that a person was no longer one of jehovah's witnesses.. i thought it was around the time of the bulgaria scandal.. could you help us out to remember when this change took place?
if we could remember the approximate year, we could look up all the boe's for that year and might find the letter.. many thanks!.
atlantis!.
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Changed From "Disfellowshipped" to "No Longer One of Jehovah's Witnesses!
by Atlantis ina friend is trying to figure out the approximate date or letter, which indicated a change from the wording of public announcements.. they changed from saying the person has been disfellowshipped to saying that a person was no longer one of jehovah's witnesses.. i thought it was around the time of the bulgaria scandal.. could you help us out to remember when this change took place?
if we could remember the approximate year, we could look up all the boe's for that year and might find the letter.. many thanks!.
atlantis!.
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truth_b_known
If memory serves, I believe the newer phrase "No longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses" was the replacement terminology for "disassociated". A disfellowshipped person may still want to be one of Jehovah's Witnesses, but may not have convinced the 3 elders that they are truly sorry for what they have done.
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Where is the school for the 144,000?
by RULES & REGULATIONS inthe watchtower has many schools to teach their members on how to become more effective in various assignments in jehovah's organization.
they are trained to strengthen and help the congregations and branches around the world.
here is a list of some of the schools the society run:.
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truth_b_known
The reason there is no school for the 144,000 is because the "Governing Body" successfully conducted a power grab much like Rutherford did of the Watchtower after the death of Russell.
If memory serves, the Watchtower taught for years that the "Faithful and Discreet Slave Class" was all the remaining member of Christ's heavenly kingdom government still on earth. This caused heart burn for the powers that wanted to be at Watchtower HQ. A campaign to silence those who professed to be of the Annointed was secretly carried out. My belief in this is because my father was one of many victims brought to my attention.
The newer doctrine taught by the Watchtower of the Governing Body solely being the Faithful and Discreet Slave turned a figuratively bloody coup into a figuratively bloodless coup. The Watchtower successfully cast doubt on all who profess to be of the Annointed and as a result the whole remnant of the 144,000 still on earth was reduced to a bunch of loons distanced from the rank & file. Mission accomplished Governing Body. 8 Banana Republic Generals smoking Cuban cigars with their high dollar scotch.
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Why does God need to be worshipped?
by RULES & REGULATIONS inthe bible exhorts us to “worship the one who made the heaven and the earth and sea and fountains of waters.”—deuteronomy 4:24; revelation 14:7.. insight on the scriptures, volume 2 pp 1200-1202. worshipone of the hebrew words conveying the idea of worship (ʽa·vadhʹ) basically means “serve.” (ge 14:4; 15:13; 29:15) serving or worshiping jehovah required obedience to all of his commands, doing his will as a person exclusively devoted to him.
(ex 19:5; de 30:15-20; jos 24:14, 15) therefore, for an individual to engage in any ritual or act of devotion toward any other gods signified his abandoning true worship.—de 11:13-17; jg 3:6, 7.another hebrew term that can denote worship is hish·ta·chawahʹ, which primarily means “bow down” (ge 18:2), or do obeisance.
(see obeisance.
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truth_b_known
To play Devil's advocate (which sounds highly ironic in this context), the god of the Bible ("YHWY," "The Lord," whatever...) doesn't "need" anything. We often confuse the words "need" and "want" (aka desire, crave). So I think a better way to present the question is "Why does God want our worship?" or simply "Why?" as in to question the whole point of everything.
It really is this elephant in the room. An all-powerful, all-knowing disembodied consciousness decides to create other consciousnesses, some astral plane referred to as "heaven", and the universe. Why? It doesn't need anything. That question is never answered.
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Who Is To Blame For the World's Insanity? Not The Leaders But Their Followers
by The Bethelite inthere are 1000's of wacked out ideas on the planet.. a crazy little man with a mustache in a beer hall in munich germany in 1923 had some crazy ideas for sure....he starting with a dozen people who thought his insanity was a good idea.
in just 22 years his insanity effected the entire world with millions dead.
he duped 95 million germans alone...who thought his insanity was a good idea.. another crazy little man with a beard, started in the basement of a church in pennsylvania in the1870's.
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truth_b_known
When people are afraid and desperate they tend to believe anything that just might be the answer to their problems. Adding to that, we saw how news media was converted into Political Entertainment using the same model as WWE made wrestling Sports Entertainment. It's a good story and like all stories the ending is predetermined by the author.
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Here's another JW / JW adjacent in the national news
by La Capra ini saw this story on a national news broadcast and said to myself, "hey, that's the same ian rogers that was in my congregation.".
i tracked down a local article to confirm it was the same person, even though i recognized him immediately and he looks just like his dad did 35 years ago (except for the hair color).. https://napavalleyregister.com/news/local/mother-of-napa-garage-owner-ian-rogers-describes-gun-collecting-right-wing-views-in-years/article_9c823a90-6cd2-5c54-9f76-26203b17fe31.html.
things the congregation leadership did to his mom during those mid-80s years were elemental to my disassociation in 1987--i wrote them down on paper as i was sorting out my decision..
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La Capra:
That took place in my old stomping grounds. Small world.
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Cain and Abel...Who recorded this tragic event?
by RULES & REGULATIONS in3 the day came when cain brought a gift of the fruit of the ground to the lord.
4 but abel brought a gift of the first-born of his flocks and of the fat parts.
the lord showed favor to abel and his gift.
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truth_b_known
Modern day religious leaders of the Jewish faith will tell you that much of the Old Testament is just made up stories that teach a lesson. The Catholic Church even accepts that much of the Bible is allegorical in nature and not historical fact. It is because of Martin Luther and his Reformation that we get the ideology that everything in the Bible is to be taken literal.
Because of Luther's Sola Scriptura teaching we have 40,000+ denominations of Christianity that try to make true history fit Bible history.
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The JWs don't like Chess
by mickbobcat ini can remember when i joined the chess class in middle school.
my mother brought out an older watchtower article about how chess is a game of war.
since i left the cult in 95 i have slowly lost any connection to the cult.
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truth_b_known
The Watchtower's stance on the game of chess is a great example of flip-flopping. The Watchtower has been anti and pro chess in its printed literature.
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"Great Reset" and the Borg
by mikeflood inwow, just watched a video from the 'world economic forum' , a respectable organization by the way, not the usual conspiracy lunatic theorist.
it says that by 2030 meat is gonna be a treat not widely available like today, that the us is not gonna be a global superpower anymore, instead a handful of countries will dominate and that people is not gonna own nothing but will be happy.. well, that would help the borg to keep the craziness going on.. thoughts?
what's this great reset?.
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truth_b_known
The meat and dairy industries are the number one polluters/contributors to greenhouse gases. Medical science is showing the outright damage that consuming meat does to the human body. It doesn't surprise me in the least that there is a push to a meatless human society or at least a movement toward lab grown meat.
The minimalist movement is also picking up momentum. A consumer based society is not sustainable and only adds to problems. Try the 90 day challenge. If you don't use something for 90 consecutive days get rid of it.
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JW's and deciding which PAGAN traditions to follow or not to follow. Merry Christmas all!!
by goingthruthemotions in* first i would like to say.....i apologize to my son's everyday for getting them involved in this cult because i took so much from them as far as celebrating holidays go.
they are now 22 and 17 great kids.
they want nothing to do with the cult.
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truth_b_known
The whole demonization of normalized behavior is directly attributed to Rutherford and his hostile takeover the the Watchtower immediately following the death of Russell. There was a huge rift in the organization which caused there to be many splinter groups. Rutherford took the company and used the brand "Jehovah's Witnesses". The other went their way under other banners which some still exist today.
Rutherford wanted their to be a clear delineation between his group and the others. This is when being "no part of this world" became a call to seperate.