This topic is fascinating. It really turns modern Christianity on its head. Especially Protestant denominations as they believe everything in the Bible is literal and happened as written as a matter of historical fact.
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Process and Content
by Doug Mason inin a previous life, when we were teaching quality management business practices, we emphasised the need to differentiate "process" from "content".
this required looking at how things were being done rather than any analysis of the internal data being processed.. it is possible to look at the processes involved with the creation, editing, and delivery of any sacred scriptures without having any need to accept or agree with the content of what the people were writing.. the judaeo/christian scriptures open to us the minds of peoples living long ago in cultures that are very different to ours.
i actually hesitated when i wrote "judaeo/christian" because in reality we have the hebrew literature followed by jewish literature.. treating their writings as "literature" opens the field of enquiry, freshening the mind from having any need to become personally involved in its contents.. i am currently investigating second temple judaism, since that period created the foundations for judaism and for christianity.
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Would Watchtower Ever Risk Setting Another Date
by Number 6 inthere was a 50 year gap between the failed dates of 1925 and 1975.. memories fade, people die, and who cares what was said 50 years ago.. most jw's now in the religion werent there when 1975 was a thing.
even my mother who was baptized in 1974 who i do remember speaking about it back in the day, can barely remember what the fuss was about.
for active jw's who are doing all there studying online now, its practically impossible to find any wt contemporary reference to 1975.. i read recently (sorry i cant source it right now) that at the time, even watchtower may have taken the view that even if they knew 1975 was wrong, the short term gains would far outstrip those who left leading to an overall net gain so it was a risk worth taking.
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I highly doubt it. They even had to redo the Awake! tagline about this system ending before the 20th century ends. All will get is 31 flavors of "The last, of the last, of the final part, of the last days." -
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Pioneer School Funny Picture
by pale.emperor infound this on one of the exjw reddit pages.
a "hilarious" group photo.
another sign that this isnt the same religion we remembered of the 80s and 90s - and i dont mean that in a good, progressive way.. you can just smell the virginity oozing out of the front and back row.. .
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"We are not in a cult. See, we wear bow ties and make silly face photos."
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Noah’s flood
by dothemath ina few years ago at one of the conventions, there was a talk on gods remarkable creation.
one of the slides showed a giant sequoia tree, approximately 5000 years old!.
later another talk was about noah etc.
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There was no global flood. The scientific evidence is overwhelming. There was a local flood in the region of Turkey about the time the Biblical flood took place. This is probably what started all the flood myths, but good luck getting any Protestant denomination to believe it.
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Noah’s flood
by dothemath ina few years ago at one of the conventions, there was a talk on gods remarkable creation.
one of the slides showed a giant sequoia tree, approximately 5000 years old!.
later another talk was about noah etc.
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There was no global flood. The scientific evidence is overwhelming. There was a local flood in the region of Turkey about the time the Biblical flood took place. This is probably what started all the flood myths, but good luck getting any Protestant denomination to believe it.
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“White Privilege”
by minimus inlately that’s all i’ve been hearing about!
i’m sick and tired of listening to white people begging for forgiveness simply because they are white.
in a nearby town, a six year old girl asked her mom, “ why don’t we have a black lives matter march here?
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I have an honest question; as demographics change in the United States, will the term "privilege" be passed on to the next racial group? For example, ethnically or racially speaking, Asian American wealth will soon pass Caucasian Americans. Will we soon be hearing the term "Asian Privilege"? Right now whites make up about 76% of the U.S. population. By 2030 it will fall to 55%. By 2042 Hispanics will outnumber whites and be the majority. Will we hear the term "Brown Privilege"? Will there be a White Lives Matter protest every time a Hispanic police officer kills a white person? Who has the answers?
As previously mentioned, there are claims of male privilege in the U.S. Statistically there are more men in American prison systems than women. How could this be? If blacks only make 13% of the U.S. population, but have a higher (but steadily declining) prison population vs whites due to "white privilege," why are there not more women in prison vs men due to male privilege?
Officer Derek Chauvin of the Minneapolis Police Department is Homicidal police officer. Chauvin Murdered George Floyd in the streets of downtown Minneapolis in front of witnesses while knowingly being video recorded. Immediately the cry of systemic racism filled the streets of urban centers across the nation. Why? What evidence is there that Chauvin Murdered Floyd because of his skin color? Did Chauvin have a Klan outfit in his bedroom closet? Did Chauvin post racial slurs on social media? Has anyone provided one bit of evidence that Floyd's Murder is a hate crime as defined by statute?
My studies of psychology brought me across something interesting - all thought, emotion, and behavior is learned. So, what happens when children in a particular community are taught by parents, family, and friends from birth that there is this big, scary, nameless, faceless group of people who are going to mistreat you because of your skin color? Simple - every time someone in this group is an asshole it must be because of skin color.
All racists are assholes. Not all assholes are racists.
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CO'S "encouraging" letter to circuit
by nowwhat? inthe point of the letter was how many are feeling disappointed these days.. no circuit assembly, convention, how we can't fellowship at the k.h.
disappointed we might have had a love one die, etc etc.
he then goes on to write about how disappointed jehovah must have felt when his first human creation rebelled.
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You are not allowed to feel disappointment. That privilege belongs only to Jehovah, you good for nothing slaves.
What's the saying? "Never let a good crisis go to waste"? Circuit Assemblies and Conventions have always been big money makers for the Watchtower. However, think of the lowered overhead of having both programs present in an online only streaming format. Just click on the donate icon at the bottom of your screen.
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Did they use to applaud after reinstatement after being Disfellowshipped, but then it stopped?
by ThomasCovenant ini don't remember disfellowshippings happening very often and announcements about being re instated but i think i remember that we used to clap hands if someone came back after being disfellowshipped.
but then i think clapping wasn't allowed.
am i correct in my recollections?.
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However, according to Jesus the Angels still cry out in joy when a lost sheep returns to the fold.
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Jehovah's Witnesses Class Warfare (parallels to Karl Marx)
by Terry inamong jehovah’s witnesses, the elite consists of 144,00 kings and priests who have been specially selected (anointed) to rule in heaven (as transformed spirit beings) over the second group (great crowd) who remain human on a paradise earth.. .
in marxist theory, the elite use wealth to obtain political power and control ideology consisting of shaping the worldview of the underclass.
(their role in society.).
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Don't forget that both think of their little empires as a Utopian society or, in this case, a New World Society.
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Removing Historic Monuments and Statues - Does the Term "Historical" Make it Right or Wrong?
by RubaDub inafter further review and thought, i really don't see how removing a monument or statue that may be truly offensive to a large group of people is in some way rewriting history.. i think of germany or other parts of europe.
you don't see swastikas on buildings or statues of hitler or mussolini or other upper level generals in public.
would it be good for a person (think jewish) to drive around a city and see hitler in a public park, even though it is "historical?
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Nancy Pelosi demands 11 statues involving Confederate States figures. 11. Eleven. Who knew there were so many? I know. Nancy Pelosi. Nancy has know for all 30 years she has been in congressional office.
So, why now does Nancy call for their removal? Why not when Barack Obama was president and the Democrats also ran the House and the Senate? The answer is simple: Politics.
Nancy doesn't care. Nancy is just being a politician.
We have a nation obsessed with victim culture and driven by emotions rather than reason. Why are there statutes erected to honor the losers? Every Confederate hero is a traitor and domestic terrorist of the United States? Simple - victim culture. The South looked upon themselves as victims.