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  Window Washers

  by Nikki collins in

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  i know @hiddenpimo is going to laugh at me for this because we had several in our old congregation, but what is with all the window washing businesses owned/managed by jws???

  they are everywhere!

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  Janitorial service at one time was the number 1 means of gainful employment for JWs. When my parents got married they wee pioneers. They lived in an apartment above a garage and paid the bills by cleaning banks after hours.

  Like so many Witnesses, the have no retirement or health insurance. Contributing to a retirement system was believed to show a lack of faith in 1)the end coming before you needed a retirement or 2)that Jehovah would provide. Unlike my parents, I picked a career. I'll be eligible for retirement at 52 and will be living in a beach house.
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  Wedding Rings.

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we have long queried why so-called things of pagan or religious origin like christmas or easter are banned by the wts but the use of wedding rings were not.. i was talking about this with a friend who follows a wiccan path of belief and he has sent me the following information from one of his magic magazines.. quote: .

  " why do we wear our wedding ring on our ‘ring finger’ ?

  thus, to properly activate the ring finger we need to wear a golden ring on it.

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  Bridesmaids and groomsmen are also a wedding practice that involves non-christian religious beliefs.
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  The last generation of JW’s

  by HiddenPimo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  if you take a moment to look at the demographics of your congregation (if you’re pimo), i think you will notice that the youngest elders are in their late thirty’s and early 40’s.. that is the generation that i was part of when still in as an elder,.

  we were last ones to work on all the quickbuilds and the big conventions.

  we were the last ones to remember the original jw way of life with the gatherings all the time and the books studies in the homes.

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  Unfortunately the Jehovah's Witnesses religion is like a mutating, antibiotic resistant strain of herpes. I think this is one of the reasons it has lasted this long. If it hadn't adopted the changes it has over the past decade it would have died in the U.S., which would ultimately have killed it world wide.

  I grew up as a Witness in the 80s and 90s. I don't even recognize the religion in its current form. There has been a complete reversal on Witnesses studying and educating themselves in Bible research. I would never have guessed that as time progressed, allegedly bringing us closer to Armageddon, there would be fewer meetings and publications.
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  Stopping Thought Stopping.

  by Peeringin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  im sure that many on this forum will be aware of the thought-stopping techniques that are taught by jws/wts to suppress difficult thoughts and overcome cognitive dissonance in favour of reverting back to belief in wts.. often in conversation these will be clear verbal cues that can sound unnatural during the course of a conversation, as though an individual is temporarily reading a script to overcome a difficult point.. my question to you all is this:.

  are there any methods or resources that people are aware of that can help to break through a thought stopping mechanism when it is noticeably in effect?

  a question perhaps, or technique that will encourage the individual to think the thought through in its entirety?.

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  How can you call it "The Truth" when much of the belief system is based on the opinions of 8 men (aka: Bible based principles are still not Biblical and are man made rules) or it can change or flip flop (aka "New light")?

  Truth does not change. It is a constant. New understanding makes old understanding false in the present just as much as it was in the past. Calling it "The Truth" is the antonym of what it truly is - a belief and a belief is just a nice way of saying opinion.
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  Control of Microphones?

  by Peeringin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hello all, first post so a whistle stop of who i am first!.

  ’unbelieving husband’ here married to pimi wife living in uk.

  anyway on with the post.... i attend the kh this weekend with pimi wife, i’ve been a handful of times before.

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  Growing up as a Witness my father gave Sunday Public Talks all over the place. It was common to visit a different congregation/Kingdom Hall at least once a month. Back in the 80s I remember visiting one congregation that had wireless mics on booms as you described. I also remember the sound was awful as a result and the wireless system occasionally picked up radio signals from some other devices.
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  Can You Only Be Baptised At An Assembly These Days?

  by snugglebunny in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just wondering..my step-grandfather, (he eventually persuaded my widowed jw grand-mother to marry him and he was already well into his 80's but had lusted after her for some time, she being an incredibly bonny woman)..i digress..he eventually converted to the jw religion, but because of health issues was baptised at home in the bath..

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  One congregation I belonged to has 2 prisons in its territory. Elders would go out and conduct meetings there. Our congregation donated a small tub for baptisms at the prisons.
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  Alternate military service pre and post 1996 witness policies. Please comments.

  by benny in

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  2. beliefs

  what are the thoughts on the changes made by the society in the 1996 watchtower [new light] where one can then accept alternate army service where before you would have to be sentenced to do this.

  i feel many were sent to prison needlessly or even executed.

  this was not a matter of conscience as the watchtower claims..

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  This was the first thing that caused me to question my beliefs. It was also how I experienced learning this change.

  I was a young twenty-something year old ministerial servant working in the Accounts Department at a Circuit Assembly. Our circuit contained a major university and one particular congregation that had many former students of that university in it. The Elder in charge of Accounts was attending that university during the Vietnam War. This was before he became a Witness. When he was called before the draft board he elected alternate service and was placed in the US Post Office where he continued to work at the time of this assembly.

  I remember we were in the upstairs Accounts office watching the program. When this topic came up I could see this Elder develop a 1000 yard stare. He became still and quiet. I don't recall his exact words, but he said something along the lines of "How many brothers needlessly went to prison over this?"

  It struck a deep chord with me.
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  Pale.Emperor Summons Some Demons

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  remember when we were jws and all loved to hear demon stories?

  and then there was always that paranoid person that would shut us up "in case they're listening"?

  and the resident crazy every congregation seems to have that claims to have been possessed at some point?.

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  Obviously if you were really serious about summoning demons you would have bought some Smurfs for the house. Then it would look like a scene out of Poltergeist in your living room.
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  Shift in beliefs?

  by blankspace in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was wondering whether anyone observed this point in the previous week's wt study, in paragraph 17: "jehovah’s spirit moves “the faithful steward” to keep giving his servants their food supply.".

  i see this as a subtle move away from earlier claims to be channel for spiritual food.

  the gb earlier said that they weren't inspired or infallible.

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  The only thing being moved are the goal posts and the Watchtower is doing the moving.

  Good catch Blankspace!
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  Matthew 24:37-39 Proves That Jesus is Fictional

  by APieceOfShitNamedTate in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was doing some browsing today on http://watchtowerletters.com and discovered a very thought provoking point.

  the fact is that the flood of noah's day does not stand up to scientific scrutiny or common sense.

  this becomes all the more apparent when considering an ancient story like the epic of gilgamesh.

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  truth_b_known

  Although I do believe that the biblical Jesus did not exist, the reasoning given involving the Jesus speaking about the flood of Noah's day lacks reason.

  The bigger clue is that the Epistles of Paul were written decades before the gospel accounts. There is some serious "cart before the horse" issues with this. Not to mention that there is no other record of Jesus outside the gospels.