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Can someone help me figure out something, dealing with paganism?

by Tameria2001 in

the watchtower and quite a few other religious groups don't do certain things because of pagan origins.

they go on about the different holidays, certain traditions, and say they don't do those things because of pagan origins.

yet they turn right around and do other stuff, which does have pagan origins.

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JW: "We would like to invite you to the Memorial of Christ's Death."

Me: "Do you mean 'The Lord's Evening Meal?"

JW: "Yes!"

ME: "No thank you. That is based on the pagan holiday of known as 'Passover'. As a Christian, I do not practice interfaith."

JW: "But Jesus commanded us to do this!"

Me: "Do you refuse to celebrate Christmas?"

JW: "Yes."

Me: "Why?"

JW: "Because it has pagan origins."

Me: "How do you define 'pagan'?"

JW: "Any practice originating with false religion."

Me: "Is Judaism false religion?"

JW: "Yes."

Me:*Puts on Thug Life sunglasses/"The Next Episode" by Dr. Dre starts playing*

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Can someone help me figure out something, dealing with paganism?

by Tameria2001 in

the watchtower and quite a few other religious groups don't do certain things because of pagan origins.

they go on about the different holidays, certain traditions, and say they don't do those things because of pagan origins.

yet they turn right around and do other stuff, which does have pagan origins.

I agree with you 100%. So much of the cult life in the organization is based on this concept. The idea that if something, at least at one time, was involved in a religion other than Jehovah's Witnesses it would be considered interfaith - literally worshiping a god other than Jehovah. Therefor being something that just was not done.

After leaving the organization I began to learn of customs practiced daily by Witnesses, at least in the U.S., that come from non-Judaeo-Christian religion.

Are you married?

Yes.

Did the bride wear a white gown?

Yes.

Were there bridesmaids and groomsmen?

Yes.

Are their wedding rings?

Yes.

All pagan ritual for weddings.

Here's the worst part - as an active Witness in the U.S. I dare you to go around your congregation stating that.

"Oh Brother So-and-So, is that a wedding band you're wearing? You do realize that is pagan in origin. You may want to take that off as to not stumble any one in the congregation."

"Sister So-and-So, I hear you are getting married this weekend. Are you having bridesmaids or wearing a white wedding dress? You shouldn't. Especially if you are having your wedding in the Kingdom Hall. Those are all practices steep in ancient false religion."

I promise you will be ordered to cease and desist under penalty of disfellowshipping if you don't.

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JW Investment Tip

by neat blue dog in

when your fridge is getting empty, what should you do?

a recent wt shows the ideal next step.

(in picture form, so all ages/education levels can understand.).

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Upper picture caption - "Oh, dear! No food, again. I guess I will just go with out."

Lower picture caption - "I know I'm starving, but someone has to pay for these child abuse court judgments against the Watchtower."

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Anthony Morris Jehovah's Witnesses Governing Body imparting wisdom about Apostates

by Not_Culty in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fku45b2kchu.

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"Stuck with what is authorized"?

What a cult!

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How do you feel about your JW childhood?

by Emily1987 in

jw
friends

i was 5 years old when my mother was baptised.

we went from celebrating xmas to no presents or decorations.

we would still go to my unbelieving aunty's house on xmas day, all of my cousins would be playing with their new toys and would wonder why i didn't have any.

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It was pretty awful. I was born in. My father was the presiding overseer until I started high school. We moved to a new congregation then and he was seen as a threat by our new presiding overseer.

Up until high school I had no Witness friends in school or even in my neighborhood. I had neighborhood friends who shared the same interests I had. Both my neighborhood friends and my interests were frowned on by my parents.

Until I moved and started high school I was ridiculed constantly by classmates for being a Witness. I never felt proud to be ridiculed for my imaginary friend. I hated it. I often tried to hide the fact I was a Witness.

Every Saturday morning I had to get up early to go out in field service. Unless I was sick, I couldn't stay home and watch Saturday morning cartoons. Sundays were no better. If we had the morning meeting I had to go out in service after the meeting and starve until dinner. If we had afternoon meetings I had to get up early on Sundays to go out in service. That means I couldn't stay up late on Friday or Saturday to watch my TV shows. My parents didn't want me falling asleep during the Watchtower Study.

That which was hardest was that I am a huge sci-fi/fantasy enthusiast, So much of what I was into was deemed "demonic" by my parents and forbidden. Do you have any idea how difficult it is to stash a $2,000.00 comic book collection as a 12 year old?

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Serious Issue ....... that MUST be Addressed !!!!!

by Simon in

this is such an important issue, more and more people are succumbing to what must be some viral outbreak wreaking havoc in the world.. i'm talking about unnecessary punctuation.. it's easy to become infected.

you want to write something and add some emphasis so you add an exclamation mark to make it "important!

" but dang, it's not important enough is it??

truth_b_known

I agree. However I do support the use of the Oxford comma and two spaces after the end of a sentence.

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France's niqab ban violates human rights, UN panel says

by Richard_I in

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/france-ban-islamic-veil-niqab-human-rights-united-nations-1.4874465.

“the un human rights committee said tuesday that france's ban on the niqab was a violation of human rights, and it called on the government to review the legislation.. france had failed to make the case for its ban, the committee said, giving paris 180 days to report back to say what actions it had taken.

the panel's findings are not legally binding but could influence french courts.. .

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Yet another reason why the U.N. needs to be abolished.

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Today is a BIG anniversary for me...but--of what?

by TerryWalstrom in

today is a big anniversary day for me!.

october 23, 1967, was a monday.

i stood in front of district judge leo brewster as he sentenced me to six years in federal prison.. .

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For a cult that less than 30 years later flip-flopped on their view of alternative service. This was the first thing that opened my eyes to what the organization is.

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Regional JW "Culture" - Did you experience any differences that surprised you?

by Diogenesister in

so this particular comment on another topic got me thinking about "regional" jw cultures.

things that were acceptable in one area you lived in, that were absolutely verboten in the jw hall/circuit you perhaps grew up in etc.

never met jws that cared if people played chess, and i knew a number of people who did play chess.

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I was born in the northern mid-west of the U.S. and lived there until I was 12. Wearing clothing displaying professional sports teams' logos was just not done. My family moved to the west coast and no one had a problem with it.

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Do You Know Of Anyone Who Left JWs And Then Decided To Return?

by minimus in

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friends

quite a few years ago there was a poster here that left the religion because he knew it was simply not true.

however, he returned to jws because he wanted to be with his family.

i don’t know how he is doing but gumby was his name.

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Honestly, I have never heard of a single one after being in for the first 36 years of my life. 4 states. 6 congregations. Not 1.

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