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  Award Shows and Entertainment---Do You Want To Hear Political Views During A Show?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if i watch a ball game or an awards show or some other type of entertainment, i really don't care about politics.

  i enjoy politics but there's a time and there is a place.. i think it's getting out of hand and it's getting pretty boring...but that's just my humble opinion..

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  I value celebrities political opinions less. On top of their lack of qualifications, they are often detached from the reality that the rest of us live in. When a person makes a living playing children's games, pretending to be someone else, and making music to the point that the pants they wear cost more than man car, I don't want to hear your opinions about politics.
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  Once you've proved the truth to yourself you don't need to keep trying to disprove it...

  by cognisonance in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was told this during my judicial committee (some five years ago) when i brought up concerns i had with the "truth.

  " in addition one of the elders (who was an engineer) said once you've accepted a proof of pythagorus' theorem you don't later start doubting that theorem.

  i thought that argument was a weak analogy then.

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  Anything exercise that requires "faith" is not based in "truth" and demands proof.
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  Freudian slip in last Sunday's WT?

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i had this point highlighted to me yesterday by a dyed-in-the-wool j.w.

  who is beginning to see cracks in his beloved golden calf of warwick.

  so encouraging to hear his disgruntlement with org-related topics.. “many in the christian congregation may not have expected their loved ones to die this side of armageddon.” (july 2017 study wt).

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  I noticed as the thread progressed there have been some posts that allege that some of us are "reading too much into this." I respectfully disagree. I truly believe this quote is "crawfishing" by the Watchtower and victim blaming.

  Most of us here were present or at least know of the talk "Millions Now Living will Never Die" as well as how that message has been echoed through the decades. That is until the 1990s. Even the mission statement of the Watchtower and Awake changed to reflect the change in thought.

  I grew up in the post 1975 organization. My childhood was in the 80s and I graduated high school in the 90s. Growing up in the 80s I could not count the number of times I was told that this system would end before I even got to high school. I truly believed that. I was told countless times how fortunate I was that I would never grow old and have to deal with age and infirmity. I believe that as well. I was told that I would never experience death and, if I remained faithful, I would walk through to the other side of Armageddon. I wholeheartedly believed that.

  Then came the change. Overlapping Generations. I believe in Occam's Razor - the simplest explanation is usually the correct one. Overlapping Generations was thrown on us because "Millions now living will never die" was and still is a fraud. They knew it. It was their second 1975.

  Just like with 1975, the Watchtower victim blamed and denied the whole thing. The same is true with Millions now living. This Watchtower quote is definitive proof of this.
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  Bible contradictions.

  by pleaseresearch in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  what are your biggest, funniest, scariest, etc.... wait wt says there are non hahahah.

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  God is all powerful...unless his enemies have chariots of iron. Judges 1:19
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  How many do you figure are converted through the door to door ministry?

  by HereIgo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i regular pioneered for 2 years and never have actually converted anyone through the door to door work, in fact, i only knew a few individuals that joined this way.

  most were born-in or at least had some type of family influence.

  i had several bible studies but they all got cold feet when things got serious and potential baptism was discussed.

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  truth_b_known

  My experience was few to none and those who did ended up leaving, being disfellowshipped, or both.
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  What's the deal with the anointed class, why aren't they JW rulers?

  by TTWSYF in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i never got in with the jws far enough to know the detailed teachings regarding the 144k going to heaven.

  they are rulers with jesus in heaven?.

  shouldn't they be in charge of the wts?

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  Jehovah's Witnesses have actively persecuted their own who claim to be of the Annointed. If you weren't part of the Governing Body, at Bethel, or really old your claim of being of the 144,000 was frowned upon and you were looked at skeptically. High ranking members of the organization actively sought out such ones like the Spanish Inquisition and trumped up charges to disfellowship them.

  Part of the reason is, at one time, the organization had certain rules that Annointed brothers who were elders automatically got put in charge of certain things. This caused envy among elders, circuit, and district overseers who were of the Other Sheep.
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  Freudian slip in last Sunday's WT?

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i had this point highlighted to me yesterday by a dyed-in-the-wool j.w.

  who is beginning to see cracks in his beloved golden calf of warwick.

  so encouraging to hear his disgruntlement with org-related topics.. “many in the christian congregation may not have expected their loved ones to die this side of armageddon.” (july 2017 study wt).

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  truth_b_known

  Here's what I get from that quote:

  "Many of you idiots were dumb enough to believe that this system would end around 1994. This is because of our teaching that this generation would by no means pass away. By "this generation" we meant people born when Jesus sign manifested in 1914. Well, we received new light in the way of "Overlapping Generations". Get over it you good-for-nothing slaves and get back to work! Also, send us all of your money because this overlapping generation is going to endure for a looooooong time."

  Am I right?
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  Ever bump in to a JW acquaintance at the gym?

  by Vetiver in

  1. social
  2. physical

  this has happened to me on 4 occasions.

  3 times it was an elder and i simply pretended i didn't know him and avoided eye contact.

  the other time was someone of my age that didn't really talk to me of the opposite sex.

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  I'm surprised!

  1 Timothy 4:8 always seemed to be the scripture that made Witnesses shy away from the gym. After all, that's time you could of spent on "kingdom interests".

  It also made me wonder why being obese isn't a disfellowshipping offense. If smoking is a disfellowshipping sin because the smoker is intentionally desecrating his body ("temple") then why isn't sucking down $0.99 cheeseburgers at McDonalds? You are always more likely to run into a Witness around 11:00AM at a McDonalds (field service break) than at anytime at a gym.
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  The Great Pyramid and the Flood of Noah

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the great pyramid and the flood of noah.

  _________________________________if your world view rests firmly upon the foundation of bible accuracy matching the reality of history, sooner or later you’ll crash into the question of when the great pyramid was built.why?let’s see why…2 peter 3:5-6 complete jewish bible (cjb).

  5 but, wanting so much to be right about this, they overlook the fact that it was by god’s word that long ago there were heavens, and there was land which arose out of water and existed between the waters, 6 and that by means of these things the world of that time was flooded with water and destroyed.________________________________________________.

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  truth_b_known

  The pyramids of Egypt and the "Great Flood of Noah's Day" are some prime examples of what woke me up to the truth about the Truth and Bible based religions in general.

  There are those who believe, based on their personal research, that the pyramids of Egypt predate the Egyptians. The Egyptian government will not let any scientist who subscribes to this theory anywhere near the pyramids. The bigger point is that this is just one of the many reasons why there never was a global flood as described in the Bible book of Genesis.
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  Translating accurately is really f*&%$ing hard!

  by TTWSYF in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i wanted to relay an example that i heard about translating difficulties.

  take the 5 word phrase.

  "i didn't eat your sandwich".

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  truth_b_known

  What you are referring to is the fact that 93% of human communication is non-verbal. Gestures, facial expression, voice stress, etc. all have more to do with communication between people than the actual words used.

  A better example is one my college Spanish professor gave to my class -

  My professor was at a restaurant with a student whose first language is Spanish, but was learning English. The student asked the waiter for a chicken sandwich. The waiter replied, "I'm sorry. We have run out of chicken."

  The student envisioned a giant in the kitchen with the kitchen staff running out from inside the chicken.