As an org that considers you can lie if it suits aka "theological warfare" which was raised to their utter embarrassment at the CARC this is coming over pretty damn thick.
Posts by zeb
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32"Gem from the November 2019 WT. Reject apostate material because JWs trust in "their brothers."
by Daniel1555 indear friends.
i didn't post for a while, but i still enjoy the great jwn community.. just wanted to share a "gem" from the november 2019 study watchtower.. paragraph 8 from the article "are you maintaining your large shield of faith?".
satan, “the father of the lie,” uses those under his control to spread lies about jehovah and about our brothers and sisters.
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Tarriffs
by truthlover123 ini am not a mathematician, so i have a question -- the dow dropped almost 900 points today due to china devaluing its yuan against the us dollar.
what will the impact be on markets as well as the farmers, steel, etc.?
- this is crazy and as dt is a tariff guy, the country is being devastated by the results.
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zeb
China devalues..? The everything Chinese should be cheaper to buy. An Australian Prime Minister devalued the Australian Dollar once by 17% and every one said he was wonderful. I dont recall getting anything out of it.
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France Paris International convention
by keinlezard inhi everyones, .
this weekend the 3 days convention ... .
around 37500 jw and 265 baptized ... 0.7% :) .
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zeb
I recall reading of some Neanderthal graves found in Spain. These were people buried with ritual as there were objects and items (cant recall what now) in grave with them.
These were positively identified but the interesting thing about some of the remains was that they showed non human DNA..
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Brothers Saying PIMO Things In Talks
by APieceOfShitNamedTate ini've been paying very close attention to talks ever since waking up.
i probably pay more attention now than i ever did while i was sleeping.
anyway, i think there are a lot of brothers who are awake, and they try their best to go against the grain while up on that stage.
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zeb
... and his cong will be on the short list tobe sold off..
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Elders accused of playing rape tape to victim, 15; case goes to Utah Sup. Court
by Corney ina woman is suing a local congregation ("kingdom hall of jehovah’s witnesses, roy, utah, an unincorporated association"), individual elders and watchtower ny after, she claims, a judicial committee forced her to listen an audio recording of her own rape.
the trial court summarized the facts as alleged by the plaintiff as follows:.
at the time of the judicial committee, plaintiff was fifteen years old.
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zeb
Lets hope the case gets a full and clear airing in a court. My question to elders
- Did you listen to the tape prior to playing it at the 'judical inquiry'?
- HM times did you listen to it?
- Were you alone when you listened to it?
- Which other elders were there when it was played?
- HM have discussed this tape and its contents before this became a 'judicial inquiry'?
- did you find it arousing individually or as a group?
Such questions would be no less than what has been done to other victims. Lets hope the case is aired and the wt revealed for what it is....once more.
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International convention Utrecht this weekend
by Gorbatchov infriends,.
in an earlier posting gorby wrote about attending the international convention in utrecht this weekend, to keep the family happy and make some observations.. guests were gb member jackson and his assistent van der zande, a dutch helper of the gb.. 42.000+ attenders and +/- 250 baptisers.. the convention theme about "love" was not bad at all, from a christian viewpoint.. jackson and van der zande made a good presentation with humor.. the colorfull witness from arround the word were nice and nice to see.. typical witness doctrine about 1914, king of the north, being obient when your kingdom hall will be sold etcetera were hard to listen to.. but the love theme was not bad, and sometimes oké.. i see a transformation to an evangelical kind of tv church.. ifthe typical jw doctrine about years, endtime, education, blood and armageddon would be downplayed, gorby could see some positive side of jw-ism.. mainpoint is that jw try to show love but on a forced base, because they are told to do so.. but, not a bad convention, and a good, humble part of jackson and van der zande, did not expect this.. i write some positive because it is, what it is.. see your opinion.. gorby.
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zeb
Nowwhat.
agreed. but to follow the Christ is not to follow all the dusty Pharisaical rules. and they did like going on about Davids adultery.. If it were revealed he had child sex slaves would they be so keen on him then.?
So it sounds like they are trying to reinvent themselves. or if I can put it another way they are repainting the deck of the Titanic. The law suits will continue and become and more folks will leave as the changes suddenly declare hypocrisy as what was rigid doctrine is shown by their 'new-light' to have never been worth a consideration.
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Why doesn’t the Governing Body hold debates to asses the qualifications of a new GB member?
by I believe in overlapping inthe members have no idea what qualifies someone has to be a member of the governing body.
members know absolutely nothing about new members of the governing body who are appointed.
kenneth cook was the last appointed governing body member in 2018..
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zeb
They could not hold a debate as the quality of public speaking in wt land is so poor.
Any speaker who is given time uses it up to the second even if he is finished prior.
In any debate there is supposed to be a neutral chair. Nowhere in wt land is there such a person.
and my pet hate, they use 50 words in a droning output when 5 with suitable voice inflection and pauses would do.
No one putting up for the 'office' of gb would dare to say a single letter that was NOT supporting the 'party-line'.
and of course
who would get to vote for these ones..?
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New York's Child Victims Act - What Will This Mean For WTBTS?
by AnonVet inaugust 14th 2019 marks the date that new york state will allow civil litigation for child sex abuse claims against all institutions and individuals for a period of one year, regardless of how long the abuse has occurred.. i'm curious how this will play for wt.. any opinions?.
https://www.natlawreview.com/article/ny-child-victims-act-sets-one-year-revival-period-sex-abuse-claims.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/28/us/new-york-child-victims-act/index.html.
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zeb
New York eh? so the crows are about to roost.
Well done New York (who ever) for doing this.
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Strangest JW you ever knew stories
by rickroll inwe all know/knew people in the kh that were about nuts.
tell us your strangest stories.
i will start.
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zeb
An older sister had longwinded (surprise surprise) sermons she would attempt to deliver to any poor householder and become upset when they closed down on her saying 'they never let me deliver my sermon.'
One day a visiting bro was introduced to the cong and he gave her a hug.. Well this was a scandal!
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The wt as a whole is responsible for these bizarre and rude behaviours as they insist people lock themselves away from outer society, read nothing else, do nothing else eat poorly and end up as we have seen and thereby deliver an appalling 'witness' to the society they live in.
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Introductions
by Lobsto inwell, i finally made an account.
i’ve been lurking on here for four or so years, enjoying the debates and experiences of all of you.
it really helped in that initial year after i woke up, when the frustration and betrayal felt strongest.
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zeb
And a big welcome from Australia as well.