Posts by Badfish

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Do religous people have a higher / lesser I.Q.than non religous people ? Or vice-versa. Or is it irrelevant..

by smiddy in

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maybe a bit of background information here to see where i am going with this thread.i only had a basic education , leaving school as a 14 year old.

though being grouded in the three r`s reading, righting, and rithmatic.my first job lasted over 12years , had a few interesting jobs in the intervening years , and my last job lasted 28 years.

retiring at the age of 68 years.i consider myself fortunate to have had a good work ethic.now getting back to my topic , i was converted as a 20 year old , and as i said with only a basic education .

Badfish

I would have to agree with jam. You would have to differentiate between born-ins and converts to get an accurate analysis. Obviously, the majority of those who convert to a religion such as Jehovah's Witnesses would have to be sub-par when it comes to critical thinking skills. The ones who are born into the religion and are brainwashed from birth on have an existential crisis waiting for them as they approach adulthood if they do possess an above-average intelligence.

However, if you give any weight to the theological perspective, this is irrelevant to you. After all, he has "hidden these things from the wise and intellectual ones and has revealed them to babes."

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JW. org: "No, we are not a cult. We do not look to any human as our leader."

by Faithful Witness in

i know this has been rehashed, time and again, but i saw this interesting blip on jw.org last night, and did a little thinking about it.... jw.

org answers the important question that so many have... are jehovah's witnesses a cult?.

jehovah's witnesses do not look to any human as their leader.

Badfish

Jehovah's Witnesses do not look to any human as their leader. Rather, we adhere to the standard that Jesus set for his followers when he stated: "Your Leader is one, the Christ." - Matthew 23:10

Why is Jesus pretty much ignored, but Jehovah and the Governing Body are emphasized? Why is everything about Jehovah, with the Governing Body as the sole channel and mediator? Where is Jesus in all this?

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Are Men's Rights Laughable?

by Paralipomenon in

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reading over the woody allen thread i noticed a couple things but didn't want to side track the "discussion".

1) woody allen is creepy.

2) nobody really seemed to care that his ex-wife was abusive towards her children.. an example i think is perfect was the release of twilight where you would see lineups of 30-40 year old women making very inappropriate comments about a 16 year old boy.

Badfish

Yes, apparently reading is an art form.

Scroll up 5 posts above this one and read what I wrote.

"Women DO automatically get sole custody of children in all 50 US states when the parents are not married. Men have to fight a legal battle in court if they want to be allowed to even see their children and establish any parental rights."

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Does_the_birth_mother_have_sole_custody_of_the_child_if_she_and_the_father_were_not_married#page1

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Moustaches vs. beards - one of the contributing factors to losing my cognitive dissonace

by Pacopoolio in

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as a little background - i was born-in to being a witness, back in '79, in detroit, in mostly black and poor congregations.

baptized when 10-ish, stayed around, was on the fast track to ms, but faded when i moved out at 24ish.. there was a combination of a few things that got me on the road to "freedom" from the cognitive dissonance that kept me "in the truth" for so long.

the main thing was, being an artist and studying marketing, my thinking was patterned to constantly question if i was doing something "correctly," as constant improvement and questioning is what facilitates artistic and mental growth.

Badfish

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Are Men's Rights Laughable?

by Paralipomenon in

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reading over the woody allen thread i noticed a couple things but didn't want to side track the "discussion".

1) woody allen is creepy.

2) nobody really seemed to care that his ex-wife was abusive towards her children.. an example i think is perfect was the release of twilight where you would see lineups of 30-40 year old women making very inappropriate comments about a 16 year old boy.

Badfish

Women do not automatically get cusody.

False.

Unmarried Mother's Primary Right To Custody
The unmarried mother is presumed to have the primary or natural right to custody of children born when she is not married. Therefore, she has the legal right to custody, care, and control over the child and her rights are superior to those of the father or any other person.

Source: http://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/child-custody-between-unmarried-parents.html

I will not repeat my point one more time. If you want to believe something that does not happen, you are free to do so.

There is no need to repeat your point since it is false.

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Why don't JW's bury their dead at the KH's??

by quellycatface in

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Badfish

Has anyone been in a country where the casket is shown at the KH?

When I was a child in the 1980's, we used to have open casket funerals at our Kingdom Hall. This was in the United States.

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Are Men's Rights Laughable?

by Paralipomenon in

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reading over the woody allen thread i noticed a couple things but didn't want to side track the "discussion".

1) woody allen is creepy.

2) nobody really seemed to care that his ex-wife was abusive towards her children.. an example i think is perfect was the release of twilight where you would see lineups of 30-40 year old women making very inappropriate comments about a 16 year old boy.

Badfish

Women do not automatically get custody!

Women DO automatically get sole custody of children in all 50 US states when the parents are not married. Men have to fight a legal battle in court if they want to be allowed to even see their children and establish any parental rights.

Most women will pass a functional test of parenting over most men. It has nothing to do with gender.

That is a very gender-biased statement. It has EVERYTHING to do with gender.

Let's say an unmarried couple has a 16 year old boy. They suddenly break up, and the mother takes the 16 year old boy with her. The 16 year old boy wants to see his father, but the mother forbids it. The mother has every legal right to do this because she retains sole custody according to the law. But what is the sole basis for her having full parental rights and the father to have absolutely no legal rights to his child? GENDER.

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Are Men's Rights Laughable?

by Paralipomenon in

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reading over the woody allen thread i noticed a couple things but didn't want to side track the "discussion".

1) woody allen is creepy.

2) nobody really seemed to care that his ex-wife was abusive towards her children.. an example i think is perfect was the release of twilight where you would see lineups of 30-40 year old women making very inappropriate comments about a 16 year old boy.

Badfish

IiT is absolutely false that women automatically get custody. Women never had a right to custody. The law decided that a tender year doctrine would be a good idea. From childbirth to about kindergarten, a child could temporarily reside with its mother b/c judges decided that the child was not doing much in the world. Once the child reached early school age, the father resumed total control. The father decided on education, governess, etc. Women were viewed incapable of raising their children. With the focus on the Equal Protection Clause, the courts adopted a functional approach.

Err... What country do you live in? If the United States, you must be talking pre-1960s. The feminist movement changed everything in family law to where now fathers are treated as second class citizens. Nowadays, men are completely discriminated against in family court based solely upon their gender.

In the overwhelming majority of cases, women DO automatically get custody no matter how old the children are.

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Are Men's Rights Laughable?

by Paralipomenon in

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reading over the woody allen thread i noticed a couple things but didn't want to side track the "discussion".

1) woody allen is creepy.

2) nobody really seemed to care that his ex-wife was abusive towards her children.. an example i think is perfect was the release of twilight where you would see lineups of 30-40 year old women making very inappropriate comments about a 16 year old boy.

Badfish

What do you think, are there challenges facing men towards equality?

How about the family law court system?

By default, women automatically get custody of the kids. Men have to hire lawyers and fight for their right to even see their children. Then when they go to court, if they are allowed to see their children at all, the mothers are almost always awarded the majority of the time with the children. On top of that, the men are ordered to pay ridiculous amounts in child support, separate from the alimony they also have to pay, most of which is spent on her shoe collection rather than the children.

If it was really about providing children with the most money and security (since child support is based on income and income is usually imputed to be higher than it actually is), then primary custody would be awarded to the parent who makes the most money.

Instead, it all comes down to gender discrimination against men.

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Abhor Menstruating Women.......Because The FDS say so.

by pronomono in

wow.

the insight book has some outlandish reasoning.

i'm trying to put together a talk for tomorrow night, the number 3 on abhorrent things (insight vol 1, p 17) and the entire first half links abhorrent things to menstruating women through a "possible" derived word that might mean uncleaness.

Badfish

My cousin, who is a JW but is younger than me, in his late teens, once told me that an elder giving a talk said that the Bible was way ahead of its time on the laws given to the Israelites was proof that the Bible is inspired. The example he gave is that modern science has discovered that having intercourse with a woman who is on her period can cause STD's such as HPV/genital warts.

Even my JW cousin knew this isnt true.

I lol'd.