Abhor Menstruating Women.......Because The FDS say so.

by pronomono 20 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • pronomono
    pronomono

    Wow. The Insight book has some outlandish reasoning. I'm trying to put together a talk for tomorrow night, the number 3 on Abhorrent Things (Insight Vol 1, p 17) and the entire first half links abhorrent things to menstruating women through a "possible" derived word that might mean uncleaness. Then it goes on to say how we should hate abhorrent things. Are they implying that I should hate my wife because she menstruates? That's ridiculous.

    It then tries to relate this menstruating woman to idolatry when these two things are in an entirely different class. Menstruating is uncleaness due to natural bodily functions in our imperfect state. Idolatry is a willful sin. How does unwillful uncleaness even begin to relate to willful sinning?

    Am I totally off base and missing the point? This talk has me stumped.

    Below is the source if you'd like to humor a read.

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    Insight Vol 1, Page 17

    ABHORRENT THING

    The Hebrew word nid·dah occurs 30 times in the Hebrew Scriptures and is possibly derived from the root word na·dhah ′ , which means “exclude; put out of mind (refuse to think of).” (Isa 66:5; Am 6:3) Nid·dah indicates impurity, something abhorrent, whether physically, as for example, from menstruation (Le 12:2, 5; 15:20, 24, 25, 33), or morally, as from idolatry. (Ezr 9:11; 2Ch 29:5) The same Hebrew word is used with regard to the “water for cleansing” (Nu 19:9-21; 31:23, NW; “water used in case of menstruation,” Nu 19:9, NW, ftn; “water of separation,” KJ; “water for impurity,” RS, AT; “lustral water,” JB), indicating water used to remove that which is impure or unclean.

    Thus, at Lamentations 1:17 Jeremiah says that Jerusalem in her desolation “has become an abhorrent thing [“as a menstruous woman,” KJ; “objeto de abominación,” NC (Spanish); “abhorrent,” AT] in among them [that is, among the surrounding nations].”

    Prior to Jerusalem’s destruction by Babylon, Jehovah said of the people of Israel through his prophet Ezekiel: “The house of Israel were dwelling upon their soil, and they kept making it unclean with their way and with their dealings. Like the uncleanness of menstruation [nid·dah ] their way has become before me.” (Eze 36:17) Due to idolatrous practices, Israel was spiritually impure and would thus be avoided by her husbandly owner, Jehovah God, and would be reunited with him spiritually only after cleansing. Thus, at verse 25, Jehovah says: “And I will sprinkle upon you clean water, and you will become clean; from all your impurities and from all your dungy idols I shall cleanse you.”—Compare Eze 18:6.

    At Ezekiel 7:19, 20 God expresses his anger against Israel for having made religious images with their silver and their gold and says that he will, therefore, cause them to throw their silver and their gold into the streets as an “abhorrent thing [nid·dah ].”—Compare Isa 30:22; see DISGUSTING THING, LOATHSOME THING.

    Abhorrence. Other Hebrew expressions having the sense of “abhorrence” are quts, referring to the emotional reaction and defined as “abhor; have an abhorrence of; feel a sickening dread of” (Ge 27:46; 1Ki 11:25; Nu 22:3), and ga· ʽ al ′ , also meaning “abhor,” but indicating a rejection of the object abhorred. (Le 26:11, 15, 30; 2Sa 1:21, ftn) In the Greek Septuagint these Hebrew words at times are rendered pro·so·khthi ′ zo, signifying “become disgusted” (Ge 27:46; Le 26:15; compare Heb 3:10), and bde·lys ′ so·mai, conveying the sense of “express abhorrence of; have disgust for.”—Le 20:23; 26:11; compare Ro 2:22.

    Because the Canaanites were guilty of sexual immorality and perversion, idolatry, and spiritistic practices, the Most High abhorred them, and this resulted in his decreeing their destruction. (Le 20:2-23) The Israelites were warned that, if they became disobedient, Jehovah would also abhor them, withdrawing his protection and blessing. By reason of loyalty to his covenant made with Israel, however, he would not abhor them to the point of bringing about their complete extermination. (Le 26:11-45) In the case of those who will prove to be wicked, the resurrection will turn out to be one to eternal “abhorrence” (Heb., de·ra· ʼ ohn ′ ). It will be a resurrection to condemnatory judgment resulting in everlasting cutting-off.—Da 12:2; Joh 5:28, 29.

    Deliberate rejection of Jehovah’s commands, reproof, and provisions constitutes an improper abhorrence. The Israelites were guilty of this when they refused to follow Jehovah’s commands, as well as when they came to abhor the manna as “contemptible bread.” (Nu 21:5; Le 26:15) Proverbs 3:11 counsels against ‘abhorring Jehovah’s reproof.’

    At Romans 12:9 Christians are admonished: “Abhor what is wicked.” The Greek term here rendered “abhor” (a·po·sty·ge ′ o ) is the intensive form of the Greek verb meaning “hate,” and thus literally means “hate intensely.” A person’s failing to abhor what is wicked, no longer loathing it, can result in his becoming an object of Jehovah’s abhorrence.

  • compound complex
    compound complex

    Greetings, pronomono:

    I believe the relevance may be linked to the ancient matriarchies, wherein the female wisdom and medicine and sexuality were supplanted by the patriarchal societies. Goddess worship was essentially wiped out and their practices and beliefs -- which included the use of healing menstrual blood -- were viewed as abhorrent.

    Will return later with corroborating refs.

    Best.

    CoCo

  • Band on the Run
    Band on the Run

    This infuriates me. Sisters should stage a rebellion such as the slaves did. The GB should have menstrual blood thrown on them. How do they miss the major themes of the Bible and focus on this junk?

  • rebel8
    rebel8

    I'm trying to put together a talk for tomorrow night, the number 3 on Abhorrent Things

    Ok, well presuming NOT giving the talk and never going to the meeting again is not under consideration, then you should go full-on Superfine NY Old School Dub. Abhorrent is the perfect topic for that. Give LOTS of examples of things like drinking too much, eating too much, laughing too much, etc.

  • rebel8
    rebel8

    Oh, don't forget foreplay, popular music, the Internet, windchimes, etc.

  • Found Sheep
    Found Sheep

    I think you should give a talk on things that you Abhor. Make it bible based and JWish... Abhor judgmental thinking, unloving acts....

    just my 0.2$

    FS

  • designs
    designs

    cc

  • blondie
    blondie

    Men were unclean after releasing semen.

    (Leviticus 15:16, 17) 16 “‘Now in case a man has an emission of semen go out from him, he must then bathe all his flesh in water and be unclean until the evening. 17 And any garment and any skin upon which the emission of semen gets to be must be washed with water and be unclean until the evening.

  • frankiespeakin
    frankiespeakin

    Blondie,

    (Leviticus 15:16, 17) 16 “‘Now in case a man has an emission of semen go out from him, he must then bathe all his flesh in water and be unclean until the evening. 17 And any garment and any skin upon which the emission of semen gets to be must be washed with water and be unclean until the evening.

    What about just a little precum that you could hardly notice? Should the super religious/superstitious male follow this exacting behaivor? Hey no one knows but the cumee maybe he can just forget the whole episode and forgo the whole washing thing if he was really smart and exercized a little independant thinking and chalked it up too, why would God give a fuck anyway?

  • blondie
    blondie

    God is only in it if you put him in it. These are customs of the Jews under the Law as men wrote in the bible. BTW, I don't speak for God,

    Blondie, just reporting, not supporting.

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