it's actually 4pm right now in south africa.
is the hour of the end still on the way?.
Who will be still here forever is what finally counts and you need to examine my posts why September 29 ,2011 stood so important in calculations and what is the next date to consider seriously .
The next date is October 21 ,2011 AD .
I wrote before September 29 about October 21 and November 13 ,2011 AD.
I wrote about 2012 AD and I even wrote about 2034 AD.
I plotted the whole line of the endtime predictions if there is a need to come up with the next one .
it's actually 4pm right now in south africa.
is the hour of the end still on the way?.
You are still here and it could have been you were not here anymore ! Still time to try to see it through if there is a chance to go farther beyond October 21 ,2011 which is my next date in a row .
So, now we can put September 29 ,2011 AD behind us and look forward to October 21 ,2011 AD which I am giving a 50% chance .
The date November 13 carries a 1% chance close to that of May 21 ,2011 AD of Harold Camping .I was giving a 1% chance to Harold Camping's date alone by reason of his calculations leading to that date .Not because I agreed with him on some points and did not agree on many others as I saw him as my best opponent.
Now it is October 21 in view and Harold Camping has that date as 100% sure I assume after he called the media after his failed date May 21 and spoke about October 21,2011 .
I am giving it 50% chance out modesty and I know I had a better date and that one just has failed.
Now , you are facing two different Bible teachers .Harold Camping is decisively the best Bible teacher in the nominal christendom or better call it an opposing side of an isle .He is not associated with any local congregations and is opposing all organized churches including Jehovah's Witnesses.
Here I am another one with the same date calculated and am opposng Harold Camping while I insist Jehovah's Witnesses are the true endtime christian religion and I can use a period of 120 years in the likeness of Noah's days with their inclusion in the endtime process and also I must include the International Bible Students Association as well as Jehovah's Witnesses were not yet in existence 120 years ago !
And I am using Luke 9.49-50 to claim my special status of an independent servant of God, yet not opposing the united group of servants who have Jesus at their side .
Harold Camping as indpendent figure could qualify but he is disqualified by the fact he opposes Jehovah's Witnesses who have some servants there from the class of 144000 and are united with Jesus at their side and they carry this unique period of 120 years with them as a testimony of the endtimes .
Now when we ares so close to the end it is too late for anyone else to fit in this reference : Luke 9.49-50 as it was already taken being used already . The place was taken in my view in 1984 AD .
a persistent meme that floats around on jw related internet forums holds that christ's second coming was moved forward 40 years (i.e.
from 1874 to 1914) in the year 1943.
(this appears to be based primarily on a statment in the book god's kingdom of a thousand years has approached on page 209 and to a lesser degree, a footnote at the bottom of page 133 of the publication jehovah's witnesses - proclaimers of god's kingdom.).
It is essenatial to recognize the International Bible Students were seen by God Yahweh as His endtime era people . Their dates 1874 AD,1879 AD,1884 AD completely identify them as such God's true people.
These dates allow us to work out the final predictions I was able to come to though I have realized that in much later time when I should have been.
1874 AD + 120 years = 1994 AD .
1879 AD + 120 years = 1999 AD.
1884 AD + 120 years = 2004 AD .
And we can add 7 years for 7 days from Noah's time and get 2011 AD .
http://www.focusonthebible2011.com.
Any valid prediction now must have this 120-year attachment to show we have the time similar to the times of Noah's days.
Matthew 24.37-39;Genesis 6 ,7,8 .
To make this superb Jehovah's Witnesses had the year 1942 AD as the year for the end of the world that proved they were legitimate successors to the International Bible Student Association.
hey obves,.
goodnews - i just crunched your numbers with biblemans numbers and broke the mathmatical equations down to iir2 .. let me double check the algebra ... x2 + x + 41 = prime number - xerxies x nabonidus + daniel 360 = jesus pies are squared.
.. yep works every time .. break an equation down far enough and out pops old iir2.
Let's hope the person is not dead yet which could be a huge blessing .I am running out of my limit in posting ,so I encourage SweetBabyCheezits to be more open and realize that it is much better to take September 29,2011 into account than to think about what if and we come to October 1 ,2011 without any big change .
Calculations are solidly built on the Bible information . Also notice some striking similarities .
September 7,1994 AD could have been predicted for the day of Jesus' coming .It was a new year's day in the Jewish calendar if Harold Camping is right .
Now September 29,2011 is a New Year's day in the Jewish calendar ; though September 28 is the first full day after the new moon.
September 29,1994 AD was the Day of the Bible and now October 21 ,2011 AD is that day again and both me and Harold Camping have this day on table as the day for Jesus' coming .In my case it is like a back-up date as I see the September 29,2011 AD as a much better date.
Then I have alsom two joined dates : November 12 and 13 ,2011 AD.
The coming of Jesus is narrowed to the first day of a calendar year in the Jewish setting or the Day of Tabernacles that can be called the Day of the Bible and the 17th day of the second month must be used in the likeness of Noah's time - Genesis 7.11; Matthew 24.37-39 .
May 21 was this year as the 17th day of the second month in the Jewish spring calendar .
In the fall calendar this year 2011 AD we have in the Jewish fall calendar the 17th day on November 12 or 13 .
October 21 is the earliest possible date in any year for the 17th day of the second month in the fall Jewish calendar .
You serve God Yahweh ,not me for allowing us to know these dates in the Biblical setting .
To come up with September 29 ,2011 we must come first to September 29,1994 AD which was 2300 days from May 9,1988 AD when we count these days prophetically .May 9 is the earliest date for Pentecost. Harold Camping used the day of Pentecost to arrive at May,21,2011 AD he thought Jesus would come .He used the actual date for Pentecost that was in 33 AD but it was an average date for two dates : May 20 and May 22 ,33 AD .
Pentecost from Passover that year fell on May 20 when we use our solar calendar. April 1 + 50 days = May 20.
Jesus rose on April 3 , 33 AD and 50 days added give us May 22,33 AD.
The average date is May 21.
1955 years ended on May 20,1988 AD .
This period of 1955 years discovered by Camping already places him as number 1 Bible preacher on radio in my view .
Indeed there is a period of 1955 years between and in 1984 AD by God's guidance I came up with these two sets of dates :
29 AD - 33 AD - 36 AD = 1984 AD - 1988 AD - 1991 AD . In the middle we see 33 AD and 1988 AD and that means we have a time gap of 1955 years .
We can be sure that the period 29 AD - 33 AD - 36 AD has its replica only in our times and the best period is : 1984 AD - 1988 AD - 1991 AD .
Once we know the importance of the year 1988 AD we look for placement of 2300 days of Daniel 8.14 .
The latest revealed day distribution in a year shows this:
140 days precede May 20 or May 19 ( in a leap year ).
140 days is the ending in the 2300 days as 6 years 4 months 20 days . 4 months + 20 days = 140 days.
So ,we may count 140 days from May 20 ( Pentecost day ) backwards and add 6 years forward and come to May 21 ,1994 AD.
17 years for this period of Adam ( from his creation and sin ) : 4027 BC - 4010 BC we come to May 21,2011 AD.
That date was one of the very good predictions for Jesus' coming in view of that counting .
But 2300 days can be counted from May 9 as the earliest date for Pentecost and then we do this :
May 9,1988 AD + 6 years + 4 months + 20 days ( we count prophetically years and months jumping over our solar years and months )
then we come to September 29,2011 AD .The 2300 days ended on September 28,1994 AD and we add full 17 years from September 29,1994 AD and come to September 28,2011 AD and the next day September 29,2011 should begin a new era and we have 23 days ahead of us which can be for the period of 23 years : 2011 AD - 2034 AD or 1988 AD - 2011 AD which is less likely as the September 6-28,2011 is for the period 1988 AD -2011 AD .
May 22,2011 AD - September 28,2011 AD is 132 days for 132 years : 1879 AD - 2011 AD .
May 9 - May 19 = 11 days ; May 9 - May 20 = 12 days . 11 x 12 = 132 . 11 + 12 = 23 .
May 19 or May 20 are 140 days from the begining our solar years ( depending if it is a leap year or not ).
Note 23 can be within that 132 or outside :
132 + 23 or 132 - 23 = 109 .
1879 AD + 109 years = 1988 AD + 23 years = 2011 AD.
1879 AD + 132 years = 2011 AD + 23 years = 2034 AD.
The best alignment for 23 years is :
September 6-28,2011 AD for 23 years within 132 years.
September 29-October 21,2011 AD for 23 years outside of 132 years .
So,this alignment of dates would be ideal : 1988 AD ... 23 years ... 2011 AD .... 23 years .. 2034 AD .
How come I count 23 years from 1988 AD - 2011 AD .
In the period 1984 AD - 1988 AD - 1991 AD we have 7 years and we divide them into these:
4 days and 3 nights as first half and 3 days and 4 nights the second half .
. day* .. night ..day ... night .. day .. night .. day ../ half / night ... day ... night .. day.. night ... day .. night.
a day* as a year - Ezekiel 4.6 .
4 years + 3 years = 1984 AD .. 4 years ... 1988 AD ... 3 years ....1991 AD .
Follow the Bible ,not me !
the latest oct. watchtower has an article that seems to be controversial amongst us "apostates.
" it's a long complicated article with tons of confusing names and dates, but in the end it sums it up and says:.
"to sum up: the bible clearly states that there was an exile of 70 years.
To know for sure we must stick to the dates 607 BC and 587 BC examine my posts related to the endtimes we living now.
Let's assume we have the year 608 BC and 20 years later 588 BC or 606 BC and 20 years later 586 BC . Using my methods of biblical calculations and is extremely fascianting process of learning we get :
588 BC as 5+8+8 = 21 .
586 BC as 5+8+6 = 19 .
587 BC as 5+8+7 = 20.
Which dates we should use to take a 20 -year difference into account ? 607 BC - 587 BC = 20 years as 5+8+7 gives us a clue for 20 years .
We must have these dates to come up with the endtime era :
607 BC .. 20 years ... 587 BC ... 50 years ... 537 BC ... 20 years ... 517 BC ....
70 years after 607 BC = 537 BC ; 70 years after 587 BC = 517 BC .
By seeing a period of 50 years we can think about jubilee years .
587 BC in our times must have a corresponding year 1934 AD . 607 BC = 1914 AD .
537 BC = 1984 AD , 517 BC = 2004 AD , 2034 AD will be the next jubilee year after 1984 AD .
1884 AD will be a jubileee year before 1934 AD.
So by identifying the dates in the past we can use them to reconstruct the endtime era and we know a clue lies in identifying jubilee years if we want to come up with the endtime era .
1884 AD ... 1934 AD .. 1984 AD .. 2034 AD and we insert 1914 AD for 607 BC and 2004 AD for 517 BC .
1884 AD .. 1914 AD .. 1934 AD ... 1984 AD ... 2004 AD ... 2034 AD
30 years 20 years 50 years 20 years 30 years.
It shows the perfect time symmetry which in turn shows how perfect plans God has for mankind as we see how perfectly aligned are the dates .
hey obves,.
goodnews - i just crunched your numbers with biblemans numbers and broke the mathmatical equations down to iir2 .. let me double check the algebra ... x2 + x + 41 = prime number - xerxies x nabonidus + daniel 360 = jesus pies are squared.
.. yep works every time .. break an equation down far enough and out pops old iir2.
I don't need any money from any person to do my preaching work and what I want from anyone is to search the Bible and compare my views to it and give praises to God Yahweh for giving us such wonderful understandings in our times that we can know who is the true God Yahweh and how close we are to that awesome date when God's people will begin revel in joy,happiness for all the times !
hey obves,.
goodnews - i just crunched your numbers with biblemans numbers and broke the mathmatical equations down to iir2 .. let me double check the algebra ... x2 + x + 41 = prime number - xerxies x nabonidus + daniel 360 = jesus pies are squared.
.. yep works every time .. break an equation down far enough and out pops old iir2.
I am not interested in setting up a new religious group and be a leader . I am using Luke 9.49-50 that had fulfillment when Jesus lived and taught and now at the endtimes it is being repeated in some other glorious way being a sign of the end of the world coming soon.
To be in line with Luke 9.49-50 that it be a complete fulfillment of God's words I cannot oppose servants who are among Jehovah's Witnesses who are called to be the remnant of 144000 class .
From the beginning of my mission in 1984 AD I have been always advising interested people to join Jehovah's Witnesses or be on their own without belonging to any organized church .
If I were wrong on this one I could not be a servant of God and predict the soon return of Jesus September 29,2011.
You simply don't know who are I am and you still have some little time to shake off your ignorance before it is really too late .
i have a question, primarily for trinitarians, but anyone's more than welcome to comment.
what scriptural basis is there for believing in the trinity?
i can understand some having the view that jesus/jehovah both can be worshipped, and the view that jesus should be, but where in the bible is the holy spirit worshipped?
Knowing there is no trinity is a huge clue for those who seek who has the true christian religion in our times . That person simply puts aside majority of all christian religions and the hell doctrine added to this matter clears more a path to coming to the true God of the Bible .
It is so easy in our times to know Jehovah's Witnesses are among the best in coming to the true God of the Bible .
http://www.focusonthebible2011.com;
http://www.comelordjesus2011.com .
To have the trinity a person studying the Bible would have to find these :
1/3 of God the Father , 1/3 of God the Son , 1/3 of God the Holy Spirit .Nothing of this kind can be found in the Bible .
well, i would be... if i were still going to meetings.
i live in pittsburgh, pa. for as long as i can remember we've always had our conventions in cleveland.
i think the year i was born was when we started going there.
The title of the conventions this year must be under the guidance of God ! I am predicting the coming of God's Kingdom this year September 29 and on on one of my signs I am showing to people is " Thy Kingdom Come " and the date is below .
http://www.focusonthebible2011.com .
http://www.comelordjesus2011.com.
I am including Jehovah's Witness as the true christian organization in the endtime era .What a marvelous coincidence !
http://www.str.org/site/news2?page=newsarticle&id=5725.
i fought against this with all my wts-trained power, but truth prevailed.. any way you cut it, it comes out the same.. peace and strength in your search.. sylvia.
This position is of Harold Camping known now to all the world because of his May 21,2011 proclamation .
He is 100% sure that Jesus is Jehovah . He was 100% sure there is hot hell just few years ago .He was 100% sure Jesus would return on May 21,2011 .
He is number 1 Bible preacher on radio and he has studied the Bible for more than 50 years or so like may no other human being .
Jesus is not Jehovah or God literally .The words Jehovah or God must be applied and understood in theire contextual appearance .
The name of God Yahweh ( Jehovah ) is written on the foreheads of his great servants -Revelation 14.1 .
If you could see these servants there are no names written literally on them but they are like Jehovah . You can imagine the name Jehovah written on their foreheads and you walk by and see all have names on them and would assume they are jehovahs .But there is one true God Jehovah who is the only true God .
In the Hebrew we must read the words like this in the contexts they appear and link to other related references that we may have .
In the English language we have an easy task to explain these matters .
YAHWEH ( JEHOVAH ) is GOD . Jesus is God , 144000 other servants are gods.
The same rule applied we have JEHOVAH - the only true GOD , Jesus Jehovah , God and 144000 servants jehovahs ,gods.
JEHOVAH here is not the same like Jehovah .
To make it clear when speaking we should stress JEHOVAH is not Jesus in speaking we don's see capital letters so we should narrow aplication of the word Jehovah .Simply God the Father is Jehovah alone to prevent misunderstanding among listeners.
Or you can say Jesus is Jehovah figuratively just as he is God figuratively.
When we speak about God the Father Jesus is "God" . God is Jehovah - God the Father .Jesus is "Jehovah" .
