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  Would You Outlaw Jehovah's Witnesses If You Had Your Way?

  by minimus in

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  i still believe in freedom of religion even if i disagree with the beliefsof the religion.

  what about you?.

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  Wakanda

  I used to think banning was a good idea because of the atrocities of human sacrifice to a blood doctrine, shunning, and turning a blind eye to child abuse. However, then I thought about my fore fathers, a few of whom were Jdubs under ban. One of them thought is was exciting to join a religion under ban! The stories about this time were told over and over and over. The ban and hatred of the religious leaders promoting it is one of the reasons they never woke up. I agree with taxing the crap out of them, outlawing shunning, safeguarding whistle blowers, and funding spies to ensure compliance. Also, teaching children how to recognize logical fallacies, emotional control, limiting information, thought control, etc.
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  "Child abuse is abhorrent to us."

  by Hecce in

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  birds of a feather flock together.

  australian cardinal george pell: "they are false.

  the whole idea of sexual abuse is abhorrent to me.".

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  Do they ever say "We abhor pedophilia"?

  If so, the overlords probably do not view pedophilia as child abuse.
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  the Great Cntraction continues

  by never a jw in

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  i just learned that my wife's congregations will soon be disbanded.

  her congregation will disappear (cahuenga spanish in north hollywood in southern california).

  all the members will be added to other neighboring congregations.

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  Wakanda

  That's great news neverajw! Thanks for sharing. I don't know about the Spanish speakers here, and have wondered if they are also contracting.

  I know of a cong here that had a very serious talk by the c.o. saying they were in a critical position because of so many inactive people. The next c.o., six months later, reported that they were doing well. Nothing changed. The inactive were just taken off the lists, and they were lied to by that crocked c.o. Of course, they were doing well because a lot of people woke up. Now they are combined with another congregation; hiding the losses. Poor mind controlled JWs putting up with thought stopping. Can't be negative about the contraction!

  It makes it easier to fade!
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  Suicide - How many do you know within the JWs

  by Lady Lee in

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  thw wts likes to play games with their statistics.

  one interesting but truly tragic is the number of jwhovah's witnesses who commit suicie.. now i suspect that if a person commits suicide shortly before or after they are disfellowshipped then the elders would say that person wasn't a witness or that they had done something so terrible that they were too guilty to admit it and by their action of committing suicide they pretty much declared they were no longer a jw.. yup fancy talk to make sure any crap didn't fall on them.. so my question.. do you know of cases like this?

  if so then can you answer a few more questions.. had this person been dfed or in real danger of being dfed or whatever the equivalent is if they were never baptized?.

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  Wakanda

  I know of five:

  1. a DF'ed teen

  2. an older brother, shot gun with a note, left a widow and children

  3. an older brother, elder or ex-elder, left a widow and grandchildren

  4. a young husband

  5. a sister that was abused by her husband and sisters felt uncomfortable around him, he was a Presiding jerk

  I'm sure there were more that I was never told about. I heard about the cause of death of number three from and indirect source, not from the person that should have told me. The elder that told me and hubby seemed to act like he thought we were "strong" enough to handle the suicide of that man.
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  Bible pssssges that are immoral - Lot offering his virgin daughters to be gang raped by homosexual males

  by jambon1 in

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  tell me me more about your just & loving god..

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  Wakanda

  It makes me understand when the bible says they did this "to offend" Jehovah. Of course! Me too!
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  UK Charity Comission Contacted Me Re Speke Congregation Of Jehovah's Witnesses

  by pale.emperor in

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  hi guys,.

  following on from my earlier threat about huge amounts of money simply vanishing from my old congregations bank account with nothing to show for it (here: https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5742472565096448/satisfying-decline-my-old-congregations-donations) - i actually did take someones advice and requested the uk charity commission to investigate.

  i was called today by a person who is not investigating this.

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  PE,

  Maybe this will help:

  http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/governing-body-instructs-congregations-to-pledge-fixed-monthly-donations

  or the pdf of the letter from avoidjw.com:

  https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwqmWMK7dwtlcjNMdGJYbkZMdVk/view

  Don't know about the clause. I'm in the states.

  Thank you for your efforts!!!
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  Is JW.org unbreakable

  by UnshackleTheChains in

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  i ask this question for good reason.

  let's face it, despite all the books, videos, forums, court cases, hearings, protests etc that have been exposing the society for many years.

  jw.org continues to roll on almost 'it seems' unscathed.. for example, just walk into any kingdom hall there is not so much as a whisper about anything that has been exposed outside of jw land.

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  I would also like to see someone hack into their website. They put out a rumor about that btw. They say that they didn't think about website security at all, just forgot about it. Then sometime in 2013, 2014, or 2015 I don't remember which, it dawned on them that they should put some protection on their websites. Of course, they then say that Jehovah was protecting them before that. ooooh! aaaaah!

  Ha! Right. Lying a@@es.
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  My Younger Brother Has Left The Witnesses!! :-D

  by pale.emperor in

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  absolutely thrilled to give you the news that my younger brother, a zealous full-time pioneer has left the witnesses!!.

  i haven't seen or spoke to him in a year.

  i'd lost all contact with him, no facebook, no mobile number, i didn't even know his address because he'd moved house.

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  PE,

  Congratulations!!!

  In reading the replies I learned you lost your wife and child to the cult. So sorry. Your OP made my jaw drop, and then again when I read that he found JWfacts! Yay!!!!! He'll stay out for sure now! Yippee!!! Yahoo!!!

  Like most of us he will probably devour jwfacts. Perfect.

  Oh! and he knows how to behave for the elders! great! Maybe he could record a meeting for sharing in the future if he wants, adding to the great cloud of witnesses on youtube. Or just to listen a couple years later. But, I'm jumping ahead maybe and you probably don't want to suggest that, too soon.

  ps I have found you can speed up elders talking on a recording by 1.5 to 2 times and it is just fine. They are so hypnotically slow.
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  What is behind your choice of forum user name?

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  just curious how we all think.. what prompted or influenced your choice of username for this forum?.

  there are some really amazing names, and it would be great to hear the stories behind them.... mine was nothing fancy.

  i just felt "stuck in a rut too" along with so many others.

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  Wakanda

  The meaning of the name Wakanda is Possesses Magical Powers. The origin of the name Wakanda is Native American. This is the culture in which the name originated, or in the case of a word, the language.

  Sioux.

  I just liked it. It feels like I have magical powers as a Physically In Mentally Out person because the indoctrination tries to fool us that they/GeeHover would know of anyone thinking freely (apostate)! My covert activism also seems magical as no one suspects me. ;)
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  Any leaked GB expense receipts?

  by Bad_Wolf in

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  i heard how in the 80's the gb always flew first class, nice resort hotels, etc.

  there are the photos of geoffrey with his 17k apple watch, etc.

  unless they are paying for cash, many of these things would have a paper trail on credit card statements, etc.

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  Wakanda

  I fly pretty frequently for work and get upgraded maybe 40% of the time to first class

  What airline still does that? What are you gold or diamond level or something? I see empty seats in first class all the time (while seeing the frequent flyers board early... in coach), and know of frequent fliers that used to get upgraded ten plus years ago, but not anymore. The airlines are cheap cheap cheap, and I haven't heard of them giving anything away for free, including upgrades.

  For crying out loud, I often see the emergency exit aisles partly empty because people won't pay the extra that the airlines want now for the leg room.... This means there are frequent flyers that are on the plane that did not even get "upgraded" to the exit aisle (if you can call it an upgrade when it is just an exit aisle).

  You are the first person I've heard say you get upgraded. I'm flying soon and I will ask passengers and crew, and I will ask the people I know who work in the industry.