The only reason that the WTBTS would be there first would be to try to get some of the injured to sign some of those legal papers where you leave everything to the WTBTS
NJY
you know those articles from the wt are coming, along with emails from jw friends and family.
all the shameless self-attaboys, and fictitious observations by non-jws remarking on how jws provided the most and best assistance to the victims..
The only reason that the WTBTS would be there first would be to try to get some of the injured to sign some of those legal papers where you leave everything to the WTBTS
NJY
i know somebody who got disfellowshipped...they decided to appeal.
how long does the appeal process usually take?
do they ever get overturned?
All this info is covered in the Elders game plan book, "Shepherding the Flock of God" I would do a search for this PDF and do some reading. There is also a 2nd little known appeal if the first appeal does not go your way.
The elders are told, in this book, to not mention this 2nd appeal process and is only allowed if the accused, after the 1st appeal goes awry, demands that there they are still innocent and demands to write a letter personally to the Headquarters. Something like that.
The book actually instructs the elders to NOT TELL the accused of this option.
Lot's of good info in there.
NJY
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So they are saying that Jesus can come more than one time?
NJY
been lurking here for years but finally decided to come out, at least partially.
of all things, the post of 'bats in the belfry' re: the supposed break up of gb member geoffrey jackson and his cute (ex-?
) fiancee a few days ago spurred me to do so.
Hey L3G,..
Welcome to "the ""rest"" of your life". ( Hey, I just coined that thought, get it, the REST of your life, like now you can actually rest,.. oh well) lol
ANYway, it feels good to be able to share, albeit incognito, your story and to realize, hey, I may not be as crazy as they wanted me to think I was.
I hope the other lurkers out there, ( Like I was a mere 2 years ago) make a move to be true to themselves and get on with their lives by admitting, at least to themselves that this concept spouted by the WTBTS, although compelling to WANT to beleive for the benefits, has no basis in reality.
I don't quote Cher often, but when I do, it's this "Life is NOT a dress rehearsel"
NJY
are you prepared to apologise even when it is not you fault?.
.
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No,.. not even when it IS my fault.
NJy
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[endif]this may or may not have been done before: .
1. i'm thinking of creating a 'pro-jw' facebook page.
Idea, only post that info as a new member so you can let the info "soak” for a bit then remove the post and or member.
If you do this yourself, you will have one shot, using other fake members you can keep it rolling.
NJY
under the old light, from 33 ce onward, there was always an anointed remnant on earth, and these constituted the faithful and discreet slave class whom jesus had appointed over his domestics to give them spiritual meat in due season.. but the new light is that the "anointed" were not the faithful and discreet slave after all.. in fact, according to the new light, jesus did not appoint anyone as faithful and discreet slave over his domestics until 1919 (not even the apostles or russell).. so according to the new light, who or what was jehovah's visible organization from the death of the apostles until 1919?.
who was authorized to provide spiritual food in due season?.
where is the continuity?.
I get what your saying,...
I have had the same thought and actually almost started a thread very similar yesterday.
I remember the banded stump prophecy, was that not supposed to be the lineage of gods chosen people during that period.
Also remember the Waldenses (sp?) and other groups that were supposed to be that fine ribbon through time of gods chosen people that were at least the most accurate, were these not supposed to be special, anointed ones?
Anyone care to clarify?
NJY
making people cling to the organization more.
when i found out it was up i told so many people frantically that there is a new study article up and that it had so many changes.
my mother started crying saying how happy she is to be a part of an organization that is truly directed by jehovah... only the true faithful and discreeet slave could have such insight.... another person began to say how great it is to see the celestial chariot on the move.. .
You know how some figure in the media may be getting slammed week in and week out. Then something else in the world comes up and
gives the person/news story some breathing room and everyone eventually forgets the original story. It's like the masses can only hang onto one story at a time and it usually is the latest and greatest.
What if the original person, the one taking all the heat, could have also had some control in distracting the masses by starting the new story?
The Jws always seem to hang onto the "next" piece of new light and tend to forget the ones just prior. They are fickle and abandon any talk of the older light in view of the newer one.
Could the GB be breathing a sigh of relief, at least somewhat, over the new light regarding the F&DS vs the previous cliff hanger "Deifinition of the word Generation"?
NJY
i don't know of any do you.
i would think it a major leap in logic to not concider this first before expounding on it prophetically, why go thru the bother if we are missing this important link..
Since this one parable does not stand out as being higher in relevence that any of the others, why are the parables not prophecies also, and if so, can someone tell me where the list is so i can read up on them.
I asked some brothers who approached me, when they brought up Proverbs 4:18 if this was a prophecy form the bible showing that the GB would continually get things wrong. They did not say much after that.
Side note, are there any prophecies AT ALL in Proverbs?
NJY
i noticed this on slimboy's list of things that can get you df'd, and i checked it against the "flock" book.. .
there is no mention of blood transfusions!
i know they are downplaying this, but have they stopped df'ing people for it altogether?
I think that anything that a Jw could do that would be worthy of a DF, that if found out by the public would make them look even crazier and or violate civil rights, like voting, saluting the flag etc,.. (not sure if those are civil rights, but you get the point) they make sure that they make it look like the person has DA themselves so that they cannot pin it on the Org.
NJY