if the informaiton i am posting is redundant or has been posted, please forgive me.. i know we are all at different stages of this journey.
for me i am still "in" but working towards being out and leaving.
any one in this position or who has been here knows how diffucult of a time this can be.
In reference to Steven Hassans BITE model,..
Behaviousr control
Information control
Thought control
Emotional control
I have a plan to ask the elders to research this model and apply it to my life to see how I should feel about being trapped in a cult.
My simple 2 word rhetorical statement will be to " BITE ME!!!!"
NJY
jehovahs witnesses and psychiatric diagnoses?.
today i added a new article to my blog sharing information from a 1983 study published in the journal for the scientific study of religion addressing religious affiliation and psychiatric diagnoses.
this article pulls information from an excellent academic study that is often misunderstood and therefore underutilized for its value.
MarkedMarked
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unlike god's word, that jws believe to be absolute truth, any one of their directives given at the 2013 district convention could be subject to misinterpretation.. .
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I posted this on a thread over at Jehovahswitnessrecovery.com earlier and thought it was worth reposting, possibly.
I would guess ( and this is purely a guess) at a convention of around 3000 JW attendees, that the word "Truth" would be said on average of 15-20 times a day per person ( this would not be taking into effect the "type" we all know that will use the word "Truth" in excess of 100 times) and possibly heard by on average 1.5 times each time it is said. Some may not even consciously know their hearing it being said, as it's within earshot but does not register.
15 X 3000 x 1.5 is 67,500 "Truth" impressions on the minds as a whole per day x 3 = 202,500 for all 3 days.
That portion is just the casual conversation from among the JWs, add in the DC program Talk names and
If my numbers are not too far out of line and my math is correct and you take roughly 51 talks that will cover some aspect of the word "Truth" and you imagine each speaker using the word Truth, True (pure guess) 15 times each that would get you 765 times and multiply that times 3000 you would get 2,295.000 "Truth" impressions on the talks alone.
Add that to the "person to person" impressions for 3 days and you get a whopping 2,497,500 total impressions in just 3 days.
That's a whole lota lies to work out of your minds this year. I would not attend myself.
P.S. Sorry about all the math, did not intend to go there initially and please tweak the numbers if you think they are out of line as I just guessed.
Scummydross aka NJY
that's right, a knife and a baby in close proximity.... .
http://www.jw.org/assets/m/ijw13fr/502013178/ijw13fr_id-502013178_e/502013178_e_cnt_1.pdf.
anything goes, so long as you're proving how "wise" king solomon was.. .
Bats in the Belfree,..
Please announce a "spoiler alert" in advance next time as I wanted to do the Connect the dots myself,..
no hard feelings,,, lol
NJY
i seem to remember some new 'rule' that elders whose children go to college, or perhaps it was out-of-state college, should be carefully examined to see if they still qualify.. does anyone know where that is in the publications?.
I think it had to do with some review that would rate the elders on being able to give talks at the Conventions, could be wrong.
So I donlt think that it was in a actual publication for the Rank and file, could be wrong.
Would love to see it again if it is out there.
NJY
if this has already been discussed i apologize.
i'm only here sporadically anymore.
in a recent wt study a photo was featured in the magazine that showed a "brother" ignoring the "worldly" people around him, including one who appeared to represent the group "anonymous".. i have come to learn that nothing can be taken at surface value when it comes to the borg.
Is there any real "meat" to the rumors that I hear about the Anonymous getting involved with the WTBTS?
I have seen some videos on youtube but it is a video of the guy with the mask and some audio behind it, anyone can create on of those right?
However, I do believe that the images are very well though out and planned.
What does the front edge of the womans pink bag say? "OBA" is all I can make out and how does that sound phonectically?
Could it be taken as OBEY? I'm just saying as I'm sure that it is not an actual stores bag so they had to make something and why not something that would work for them a bit.
Check out this video of Derren Brown to see how he explains it, got to watch to the end to see the explanation as to how it works and how he pulled it off.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyQjr1YL0zg
NJY
i am new here and this is my first post although i have lurked here for a couple years.
i started having doubts about the org back then and my curiosity overcame my fear of so-called apostate websites so here i am.
i just resigned being an elder 2 weeks ago.
I love it when a plan comes together,..
Marked,..
this is just a few things interesting that happened to me yesterday while waiting in the er.. i'm fine other than a minor concussion and being sore from tripping over my cat yesterday and face planting into the corner of the wall.. so anyway i had to wait about 6 hours in the waiting room and while i was there, there were these two hispanic women going around the room asking people if they wanted a "tract" on jesus, they didn't know english all that well and i couldn't really see the cover of the tract or anything, but the one woman who approached me had what looked like a bible.
of course i couldn't see what bible it was.
if i wouldn't have been suffering with a concussion and could think better, i would have inquired on if these women were jw's or not.
I've thought about contacting the hospitals that I've been to in the past and have my records updated to remove the JW and any blood potential issues
that may arise in the future while I may be incapacitated.
NJY
i had just became a witness and a guy i worked with, who was also a jw, told me a story that actually made me laugh and i think it upset him a bit.
the storys were almost always in the third person.
it went as follows.. this brothers wife and him were sitting at the kingdom hall on the end seats of the row next to the back of the room.
Family member told me that the WTBTS has a "on call" brother that travels around the USA performing what I would consider exorcisms for the friends where the elders are not able to handle it.
Sounds bogus to me.
I mean someone admitting the elders can't handle something, come on!!!
NJY
Will somone just go and drink a bit of wine and drop some dentures in the glass for me? Will yah?
NJY
