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  The Study edition of Luke NWT Now on JW.ORG...great, now they dig even deeper into the pile of muck

  by NikL in

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  so had to check it out to see what it's all about.. what i got was more cloudiness.

  as in luke 2:9.... suddenly jehovah’s angel stood before them, and jehovah’s glory gleamed around them, and they became very fearful.

  the notes point out.... jehovah’s angel: this expression occurs many times in the hebrew scriptures, starting at ge 16:7. when it occurs in early copies of the septuagint, the greek word agʹge·los (angel; messenger) is followed by the divine name written in hebrew characters.

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  I would say that 99% of the JWs I know are not even aware of the issue of the NT not containing the divine name. They just don't get it.
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  Presentation by Paul Grundy (JW Facts)

  by Listener in

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  i came across this recent down to earth presentation given by paul grundy.

  it's very long but provides a good overview of the jw religion and its dark side.

  it was hosted by "sydney atheists" so may not be an ideal link to send to jws.

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  Thanks for posting, I watched the whole presentation. It is very recent and up to date.
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  Presentation by Paul Grundy (JW Facts)

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i came across this recent down to earth presentation given by paul grundy.

  it's very long but provides a good overview of the jw religion and its dark side.

  it was hosted by "sydney atheists" so may not be an ideal link to send to jws.

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  Couldn't they have brought up a mike stand for a two hour presentation?
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  Are the J.W's reaching a "Tipping point"?

  by karter in

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  i haven't been to a meeting in 15 years but my mother and sister are hard as j.w's.

  the brothers they are appointing elders are at best suspect like one guy from my old hall made elder,big time drug used before becoming a j.w his talks are all over the place and would have struggled to make m,s years ago but with at least 60 to 70 % of young ones leaving the pool to pick from is at best reduced.. 2 other recent elders both young and zero life experience both on benefits one not well at all falls asleep all the time.. the decent,kind elders mostly older and are decent people with alot of life experience are burning out fast as there are so few of them left like 3 per congro of 100 publishers.. then you have the rich elders who wouldn't ever think of inviting some poor older or mis-fit person out to the expensive placers they go to as they couldn't afford to go so they are above the r&f and the r&f get pissed off with them.

  then we have the ones who have "put the kingdom 1st" who are now old worn out and barely getting by from welfare cheque to welfare cheque that are saying "the system should have been over many years ago" it's still here and they are struggling everyday.. then there are the pioneers who have a low payed reduced hour job that seem to think anyone who has anything is totally materialistic and looks down on anyone getting a new car buying a house ect.. along with the child abuse issues,the generation change,access to information the the g.b don't want anyone to know ,not to mention the issues around blood.. is there a tipping point coming????

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  To SBF's list, I would add the continued devaluing of women. The WT is behind just about any other organization (with the exception of the Muslim countries) in acknowledging the equality of the sexes.
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  Here is your typical Kingdom Hall of Jehovah'w Witnesses attendance!

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  kingdom hall south dakota live stream.....i found this video on youtube.com.

  it reminds me of my old kingdom hall where hardly anyone is sitting in the front rows and doesn't seem like they have a large membership.most kingdom halls sit around 200 people at the most and seem to have a hard time filling the seats.. my old congregation had around 45 members when i left 4 years ago.we always seemed to have a hard time meeting the monthly expenses.some months,i was told that some elders would contribute extra money so the congregation would not be in the negative for the month.. how many members did your congregation have while you were still attending and did meet its expenses for the month?.

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  How different is the South Dakota video from the caricatures that were on this site?:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeidZmxHLiY
  

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxmJM0muVVs

  Too funny
  
  
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  Interesting cross reference

  by Steel in

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  hebrew 1 8-12 .

  but about the son, he says: “god is your throne+ forever and ever, and the scepter of your kingdom is the scepter of uprightness.

  you loved righteousness, and you hated lawlessness.

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  I always said that the only useful valuable commentary the WT ever produced was the crossreferences in the Bible. And I'll bet they stole most of that from Scofield and Dake.
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  More fun! Did you know that Judge Rutherford had a daughter? I sure didn't......

  by sparky1 in

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  i have too much time on my hands.

  my investigations are turning up some neat historical facts..

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  It appears this was entirely an error in the initial newspaper report. Newspapers of the time were rife with errors. I remember finding a news article for the day the Titanic went down that reported that 'all were rescued'.
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  Need Proof that Joseph Smith was a Mason

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  many sites claim that c.t.

  russell was a mason.barbara anderson and james penton, respected wt historians, claim that he was not.according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/list_of_freemasonsthroughout history some members of the fraternity have made no secret of their involvement, while others have not made their membership public.

  in some cases, membership can only be proven by searching through the fraternity's records.

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  My father was a FreeMason before he was a JW. He says the Bible they used was the first one he had ever looked at or paid any attention to. I believe it was the KJV, and they memorize portions of it for their stuff they do.
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  Scientology Superbowl Ad

  by azor in

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  simply disgusted with that double standard by our system at times.

  cutting ads that question trumps bigoted wall, yet allowing a cult ad in.

  wtf..

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  All I can say is, Wow, they must have a lot of money to put these ads on the SuperBowl.
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  Finished Mystery (1917)... The book that Jesus approved...

  by Alfred in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  so a few months ago, a friend sent me an actual copy of finished mystery which was published in 1917 (not a pdf download... the actual book).

  i must say, this was the most disturbing book i have ever had the displeasure of reading.

  but i only read it because this was the main publication that was being distributed worldwide when jesus supposedly chose the watchtower in 1918 and i basically wanted to see for myself what jesus saw in the wt that would compel him to choose this religious corporation over all other religious denominations.. anyway, if anyone is interested in knowing the actual contents of this book, here are some bullet points i put together from some of the notes i took as i read the book:.

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  I had a reprint of the book at one time , but it was so boring I didn't make it through it. Terrible writing.