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  A Brief History of Racism in Watchtower Publications

  by cedars in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i've just completed a lengthy article on the history of racism in the society's publications.

  many people (including myself, until recently) aren't aware that the society's early publications were brimming with racist rhetoric, and this only calmed down as the public mood towards racism changed, most notably with the civil rights movement in the 50s/60s.. a few "headliners" from the article are:.

  russell segregated blacks from whites for viewings of the photodramarussell believed that the skin of a black man would turn white during the millennial kingdomunder russell, the society's publications portrayed the black races as "degraded" and the white race as "superior"rutherford viewed the blacks as a "race of servants", and spoke of "sobering the southern negro" in an article against prohibitionunder rutherford, the golden age slammed uncle tom's cabin (a work that helped end slavery) as being "the work of satan"; the same article branded spaniards a "backwards race"rutherford accused "jewish business men" of "oppressing the peoples of many nations"in 1929 the golden age (acknowledged by the society as essentially the same magazine as the modern awake!

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  I would chime in with Terry on this one, having been associated with the WT religion almost as long as he has. The WT quotes from the 30's and earlier sound really stupid and racist now, but at the time they were not much different from the prevailing culture of the US. Was the WT more racist than anyone else? No. Was the WT a leader in race equality? No. It simply reflected the time period, and it's leaders reacted to the societal changes (slowly) and gradually integrated. I have known JWs who still had a racial prejudice, but at the same time I knew many who were virtually colorblind. While growing up I had many friends and associates of different ethnic backgrounds, and never thought twice about it.

  That being said, I have personally known people who remember the time in the US South when there were still segregated congregations. This still was the case as late as the early '60's, at least in south Georgia. The WT was a little slow in integrating in those parts.
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  8 Year Old Getting Baptized!

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  eight year old getting baptized!

  (from a jw site.

  this 8 year old sister was the youngest of the 31 who were baptized at a regional convention in bogo city, cebu, philippines on the weekend.

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  It's a travesty. If it were simply a harmless profession of faith it wouldn't be so bad, but for the baptism to be used against the children later in life(the threat of disfellowshipping) is just plain wrong. No country in the world would hold a minor accountable like that.
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  Elders removed in Northern PA. Congregation

  by ToesUp in

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  2. friends

  a close family member just informed me what happened during their last c.o.

  visit.

  this occurred 3 months ago.

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  I wonder if it is a Menlo-like situation where they want to sell a KH and have the congregations merge or share a KH. I know if it happened to me I'd really feel used and would oppose it.
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  CAN WE SOLVE THE MYSTERY of why Watchtower doctrines changed when they changed?

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if a person gives a police report of a traumatic event, but later changes their facts during cross-examination, these changes are used to impeach the honesty of the witness.. this impeachment flows from a logical understanding facts must match reality without contradiction.. lets examine the history of the watchtower corporations leaders with a view to the harmony of.

  true teaching over a period of years from 1879-1942.. "even though christmas is not the real anniversary of our lord's birth, but more properly the annunciation day or the date of his human begetting (luke 1:28), nevertheless, since the celebration of our lord's birth is not a matter of divine appointment or injunction, but merely a tribute of respect to him, it is not necessary for us to quibble particularly about the date.

  we may as well join with the civilized world in celebrating the grand event on the day which the majority celebrate - "christmas day.

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  I have always had the suspicion that the no-Christmas, no_Thanksgiving, prohibitions were to create a rift between the family members who stayed with the WT and those who went with the 'evil slave' of the time, the various Bible Students movements. I grew up in the Chicago area in the '60's and even at that time there were family members of the living JWs who were in the other movements.

  Just a theory of mine, but seems reasonable.
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  AD1914.com Website has about 300 Pix from Rutherford's FBI File for 1917 and 1918

  by Gilgamesh in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  barbara anderson had a great idea for the ad1914.com website that launched on october 1st (2014).

  it's still getting a lot of attention even though it was especially launched to make a splash for october 1 & 2. i'm currently one of the admin/editors and i have a lot more respect now for everyone who runs a website.. the purpose of the site is to continue to focus attention on the 1914 doctrine and related doctrines.

  to keep getting attention there is now a facebook page and a twitter account where new updated articles are mentioned.. i don't think anyone behind the site thinks that 1914 is such an important issue when there are real issues such as "high-control," blood & medical coercion, lifestyle coercion, hypocrisy/honesty issues, child abuse, 'persons having no natural affection,' shunning, etc, and the religion has therefore become a hotbed of psychological and emotional turmoil.. but 1914 is still one of those "weak links" in the chain that has exposed the so-called "faithful and discreet slave" as dishonest, unfaithful, unwise, indiscreet, and ever unable to serve spiritual food at the proper time.. ultimately, the goal of the site will be, not to compete with other sites that have done such a great job of exposing the watch tower doctrines and practices.

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  Thanks for putting these documents up. They are a little out of order and unorganized, but still really interesting. There are a couple of letters by and about Charles Fekel (later a GB member) where he got himself arrested in 1918 for selling the Finished Mystery book.

  I had to laugh at one page where a government agent went to a lecture at a Bible Student meeting where the speaker 'looked like and undertaker and spoke like a barber', and the agent went on and on about how boring it was. Hilarious.
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  ALERT: NEW LAWSUIT settlement - $13 MILLION

  by Watchtower-Free in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/135m-awarded-to-bible-teacher-gonzalo-campos-alleged-abuse-victim-jose-lopez-281031832.html.

  (published thursday, oct 30, 2014).

  thursday, oct 30, 2014 updated at 11:58 pm pdt.

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  I can't imagine what the GB and their legal staff is thinking. A reported case of child abuse... report to the police... How hard is that? Why have a policy any different? Because a book written 3000 years ago says something different? The WT religion is making a fool of itself.
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  Honduras bus crash leaves 14 dead and 55 injured - JW

  by TheTruthBR in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  honduras bus crash leaves 14 dead and 55 injuredbus veered off road and crashed into ravine.

  by ruth doherty, nov 1, 2014. updated: november 1, 2014 8:10 am.

  afp/getty images.

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  I'm deeply sorry for these folks, they could be my mom and dad. I've been on some of those roads in Central America, and they are not safe; the drivers are nuts and there are almost no guardrails and safeguards. It isn't a time to point out the failures of the WT Society, (there are plenty of other times to do that).
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  Please Give Me Your Thoughts On Unusual Elderly Behavior....(thanks)

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  my girlfriend's dad who is 82 lost his second wife to cancer last october.

  while she was dying, he secretly was seeing another woman, in her 60s.

  long story short, a month after the wife's death, they both moved in together and in early june , they secretly got married.

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  a similar situation with my dad. he got remarried at age 88 to a 73 year old. She is not a bad lady, no complaints there, but his motives and actions are nit clear. He has an increasing problem of dementia and is not making good decisions ( about anything) He resented me stating the obvious ( that he needs help) and got this lady to marry him even though she had not spent more than 50 hours in his company. She didn't realize how advanced his dementia was until too late. Now she is pretty much a care giver and it is wearing her down. Meanwhile they have moved away 700 miles from me and he won't talk to me. i've had three short conversations with him since Nov. 2011. I am not DF'd. I hear he has cut me out of his will ( its not the money but the thought of it that bothers me).

  In his case it is very much a problem of dementia and paranoia against anyone who states the obvious( that he has dementia).

  maybe its off topic , but thats my story
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  The 1995 Ebola Zaire outbreak was started by a JW

  by ILoveTTATT in

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  2. friends

  the dead man is gaspard menga, a jehovah's witness who was the first person to contract ebola in 1995. the people around him, are his family.

  within a month, most of the ones on this picture were dead from ebola.

  it was because of gaspard that we now know that african burial rites are a mayor cause in spreading ebola.

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  I read somewhere that Menga was the only JW in his family.

  I have a family member living in that country. There are serious precautions in Congo right now due to the Ebola threat. For instance, if someone goes to a funeral, they are not allowed to go in service or to any meeting for three weeks.
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  BOE re:Adjusted Process to Accelerate Kingdom Hall Construction

  by TTATTelder in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  may 12, 2014. to all bodies of elders in the united states branch territory.

  re: adjusted process to accelerate kingdom hall construction.

  dear brothers:.

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  For some reason, the letter concerning this (pledges to be taken next week for an amount which is expected to equal or exceed the mortgage payment which was relieved 4 months ago) was read just tonight (9/24/14). Not sure why they waited 4 months to read it, perhaps had something to do with the fact that we had been making a mortgage payment until the first letter was read in the spring. (midwest rural US)