i've been receiving very bitter messages from jws i know, mostly my mother, but also others that know how to contact me electronically.
sometimes i find myself mad at her, though not displaying it.
but i know it's really not her or my fathers fault.
Angry at myself for being hoodwinked I guess.
I know they are a cult but I was young, ignorant and foolish to get involved and I blame myself for that.
What doesn't break ya makes ya stronger though-and I feel like wrestling monsters!
Since the day I left I've had a fire in my belly and it's never gone out ;)
i can't believe i just now heard of this.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ml2oa4oigvo.
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enjoy!.
I could not think of the term earlier but the method he uses is called coercive persuasion (identical to the WT$). The end result may differ slightly but the groundwork remains the same.
This is much more affective (and dangerous) than brainwashing as you get your followers to do what YOU want them to do by convincing them that they really WANT to do it.
Brainwashing is far less effective as it relies on getting a person to act against their will.
i can't believe i just now heard of this.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ml2oa4oigvo.
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enjoy!.
Well, from one cult to another I guess.
Very worrying. His methods are very similar to the WT$ but with the end result being more pronounced.
i see very little except that priests wear black..
Its easy. Priests parade around in black telling people what to do while elders.......................well..............umm......................................yes, I see what you mean.
so a few months ago, a friend sent me an actual copy of finished mystery which was published in 1917 (not a pdf download... the actual book).
i must say, this was the most disturbing book i have ever had the displeasure of reading.
but i only read it because this was the main publication that was being distributed worldwide when jesus supposedly chose the watchtower in 1918 and i basically wanted to see for myself what jesus saw in the wt that would compel him to choose this religious corporation over all other religious denominations.. anyway, if anyone is interested in knowing the actual contents of this book, here are some bullet points i put together from some of the notes i took as i read the book:.
How interesting. It's funny how Jesus supposedly selected an apostate religion (which, by it's own qualification it is).
I have a genuine copy of The Divine Plan of The Ages which I discovered in an old book shop. It's the one with the pyramid diagrams.
I also have the blue Creation book written by Rutherford I believe which is not quite so old.
Both very stupid reading though.
I also have Life Everlasting in Freedom of The Sons of God which very clearly shows the whole 1975 teaching (Franz).
I'm serious, these guys were seriously off their trolly.
Nowadays I wouldn't go near it with a disinfected barge pole.
i found this quote in wtbts publication, worldwide security under the "prince of peace" copyrighted 1986. page 144,paragraph 2.. .
"this jesus god resurrected.
do you ever recall stating that jesus was god resurrected?
I know this is a WT article but the priciple applies to their other publications.
To be honest, the whole of the NWT is a really bad lesson in the use of the English language.
A lot of it used to really throw me. I think that because they have 'fudged' such a lot of it and altered it so much, when you put it all together it just doesn't read very well. In fact it reads very badly and if that is so how can you learn from it?
Their criticism of the NIV and the NEV is well known but at least these bibles actually read coherently.
we're discussing this over on jwr:.
http://www.jehovahswitnessrecovery.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=12805.
a jdub has posted a video of a talk that stephen lett, a member of the governing body, just gave at a special assembly day in iowa.
Lovin it!!!
That's spot on!!!
Absolutely spot on.
hey guys, just wanted to hear your stories about the worst dates you have been in or have heard about.. .
let's see... worst date... hmm.... .
okay so this didn't happen to me, but i was there lol.
Better luck next time Terry (if you are brave enough).
as i've understood it the gb has taken a vow of poverty.
on jwn they are constantly accused of guilt tripping their subjects to keep distributing there literature to make converts in order to keep growing the number of donations which is a valid point.
i ask this question in all honesty and naivety to see where the truth of the matter lies.
First class indeed!!!
I do wonder what Jesus would say about that.
After all, to be born in a stable was good enough for him and rightly so.
These guys are just worshiping theis god, Mamon.
jesus said in the gospels: when you see jerusalem surrounded by encamped armies then the appointed time of the gentiles has arrived,so it wasn't the first attack in 587 bce.
but jesus said the words,,,,"will be,points to the 2nd attack in about the year 70 ad.
,yes into the future people"!so the idiots that dreamt up 607 bce.
Well, it is possible I suppose.
They have been known to make the odd mistake ;)
