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  ANNOUNCEMENT CLIP ...2015 Annual meeting Sam Herd confirming what we knew a month ago about slow down and halt of worldwide construction

  by Watchtower-Free in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_h68ktwpim&feature=youtu.be.

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  ScenicViewer

  Lol. That's a nice reference about making wishes. Herd may as well have said "Good Luck to you all."
  
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  Where has all the money gone?

  by gingerbread in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a number of years ago when i was still active, our service group was having a coffee break with the visiting circuit overseer.

  during the conversation he mentioned that the "society" was now being run like a business.

  being raised in the "truth" i thought that rather odd (and my eyes began to be opened!

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  ScenicViewer

  WT is into something, just what that is at this point has us all for now, but sooner or later we will know, sooner or later.

  I hope so. There seem to be more and more leaks, Bethel insiders leaking out letters, announcements, and other information. I can't wait til there is significant leak of Watchtower finances. We have never known how much money comes in to the Organization and where it comes from, or how much goes out and where it goes to.

  Wouldn't it be nice to have that revealed? I hope it happens in my lifetime.
  
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  ANNOUNCEMENT CLIP ...2015 Annual meeting Sam Herd confirming what we knew a month ago about slow down and halt of worldwide construction

  by Watchtower-Free in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_h68ktwpim&feature=youtu.be.

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  ScenicViewer

  The double talk is astounding.

  Sam Herd first says....

  The cutbacks, Directed by the GB, are
  - Branch and Assembly Hall construction projects worldwide be delayed, reduced in scope, or in some cases cancelled.
  - KHs built or renovated in proportion to whatever the brothers are able to contribute for this purpose.
  - Bethel families are being reduced at all branches.
  - Temporary Special Pioneers will be reduced significantly, and some reduction in Special Pioneers in affluent countries.

  Then he says,

  Please be assured that these adjustments are not being made because of a lack of financial support on your part.

  That's probably true. So what has the Organization done with all the money that was donated, collected from Brooklyn property sales, and taken from congregation bank accounts? This amounts to a windfall of cash easily totaling more than a billion dollars, a windfall that the Organization has never had in it's history. They should have more cash than they know what to do with. He didn't address this of course. Will they ever?
  

  He continues,

  The Kingdom work is expanding at an accelerated pace, and we can only do so much with the funds at our disposal.

  If the Kingdom work is accelerating, why all the cutbacks in Bethel personnel, construction work, Special Pioneers, and literature (not mentioned here, but mentioned in other announcements)? All of these things would be needed if the expansion reports are true.

  Then he adds,

  - We will be reducing personnel at Bethel
  - Bethel family members will be caring for many of the services that were previously provided by fellow Bethelites.

  Those services, which he didn't identify, would likely be what we've already heard about - laundry services, house cleaning services, and waiters in the dining room. All cut and sent home.
  

  Again, why all the reductions just when the work is expanding?

  Then he adds this loving remark,

  The response of the Bethel Families to these adjustments has been heart warming. We love them for it.

  Ok then. Thank you for all the straight talk.
  
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  On Monday Portuguese TV station will go on prime time with a great article about Jehovah's Witnesses

  by TJ Curioso in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  on monday, at 20.30 a portuguese tv station will go on prime time a great article about jehovah's witnesses.

  it will be the first time that such a big story is made in portugal, where they will be encompassed many issues related to religion: from the blood to pedophilia and its cover-up.here is a promotion.https://youtu.be/hyqyummfcxy

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  ScenicViewer

  Great title for such a report.

  "In the Shadow of Sin"

  Google translated from "Na Sombra Do Pecado."
  
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  City of Sodom discovered

  by Saved_JW in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3270999/has-biblical-city-sodom-monstrous-site-jordan-matches-descriptions-area-destroyed-god.html

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  ScenicViewer

  Seemed like I was reading the same sentences over and over.

  Same here. I'm on a desktop computer, so it wasn't your portable device's fault.
  
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  Do they notice who no longer gives donations?

  by onightdivine in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  because i haven't put in a single dime for over a year now in the box at the kh.

  the usual custom is to put money in there right after the meetings.

  but heck, i already spend so much in car fuel just to attend - i don't care really if the gb starves and dies.. oops.. anyway, do the elders take note who's donating and who's not?.

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  I handled accounts many years ago, and there were several who donated regularly, same amount, every month, by check. If those checks suddenly stopped it would be noticed - but only by the accounts servant, assuming he didn't inform others.
  

  If you donate cash there is no paper trail, so not likely it would be noticed.
  
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  Here is the funeral talk outline. VERY discraceful.

  by stillstuckcruz in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is truly terrible.

  i just love the statement "instead of eulogizing the deceased, use the material in this outline to give a fine witness concerning the truth.

  " in other words, utterly disregard the deceased.

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  DJS said,
  

  ...this self aggrandizing marketing pitch...

  That was perfectly put!

  It's a shame that at every event, gathering, meeting, etc, Watchtower is on the never-ending sell, and they will do it with total disregard for the sanctity of human life.
  
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  Guardian of Doctrine Admits 'Doesn't Really Matter If Jehovah is Accurate' say it how you want...

  by LostGeneration in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  tough to watch this whole video, the way he talks gets pretty annoying, especially after the rc hearings:.

  http://tv.jw.org/#video/vodstudio/pub-jwban_201506_1_video.

  go to around 8:20 where he gets into the pronunciation of jehovah.

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  ScenicViewer

  It's puzzling that Watchtower would go with the popular pronunciation of the Divine name instead of the more correct one, but at the same time make a big deal out of something that doesn't matter at all, like whether Jesus died on a cross or stake.

  Actually it's not that puzzling. Watchtower simply focuses on what they want people to think is important, but when a contradiction is pointed out on another topic they say that one doesn't matter.

  It's pure manipulation of people's thinking I suppose.
  
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  The Watchtower says: The Septuagint became God's Word

  by opusdei1972 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the last edition of the watchtower (study edition) says the following:.

  alexander the great later conquered much of the ancient world, and common, or koine, greek became an international language.

  so, in this verse the septuagint was not god's word according to matthew.

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  ScenicViewer

  Thus, the work of imperfect human translators became part of the inspired Word of God...

  
  Now that is some really twisted logic. It can't be the work of imperfect men -and- the inspired work of God at the same time.

  I think Data-Dog nailed it, they need a loop-hole for something and this is the set up for it.
  
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  Will Criminal Investigation And Prosecution Of The Governing Body Ever Happen Because Of The Policies They Made?

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  so far in more recent times they have only been called to take the witness stand in court twice to my knowledge one was a no show in defiance to a court order in which he gave a sworn false statement to the courts claiming austrian citizenship.

  and the other jackson who gave a terrible witness to the court full of lies and misleading statements.

  all this shows how damaging their testimony is when brought before authorities who demand answers for their behavor and policies.. i personal hope for that day to come and have a gut feeling that we will be seeing a lot more of these guys called to court to explain their actions and impose big settlements over their not living up to their fiduciary duty toward children who have been molested by ministers(elders,ms, co, branch personal) they have appointed.

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  Penn State University - Jerry Sandusky Case

  I recently watched a documentary on Netflix (entitled Happy Valley) regarding the Jerry Sandusky case. At the end it mentioned that several University officials would stand trial in 2015 for their part in covering up the Sandusky affair by not reporting it to the police.
  

  Removed University President Graham Spanier is charged with several criminal counts for his part in the cover up.

  The quote below is from the article here,

  http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/20/magazine/the-trials-of-graham-spanier-penn-states-ousted-president.html?_r=0
  
  

  “Four days after Sandusky’s arrest in November 2011, he was out. Penn State’s board of trustees either dismissed Spanier or, as he contends, he resigned first. A year later, after Sandusky was convicted, Spanier, a sociologist whose academic background is in family and marital studies, was charged with eight criminal counts, including child endangerment, perjury and conspiring to cover up Sandusky’s crimes. The charges were as shocking in their own way as those brought against Sandusky. Spanier had ruled over an empire: about 45,000 students on a stately, sprawling main campus in State College; another 40,000 at locations around the state; an annual budget exceeding $4 billion. In order to protect the reputation of the university and its vaunted football program, according to the charges against him, he let a pedophile roam free.”
  

  The similarities between the Penn State case and Watchtowers silence regarding it's own pedophiles is remarkable.

  - Endangering children by not reporting to the authorities.
  - Perjury (by elders who testified before the Australian Royal Commission, and perhaps others).
  - Conspiring to cover up.
  - Protecting the reputation of the University (or the Organization in the case of Watchtower).
  - Letting pedophiles roam free.