I left because of Organizational dishonesty. (Watchtower is one of the most dishonest religions organizations ever invented by man.)
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Roll Call for the benefit of Newbies and Lurkers. In One Sentence tell why you left the Org.
by Wasanelder Once inroll call for the benefit of newbies and lurkers.
in one sentence tell why you left the org.
not 2 sentences.
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Funny News From My Old Congragation - Elder Fight!
by pale.emperor ini haven't stopped laughing since i heard this.
a pimo in my last congregation told me that an elder has been removed from his elder position.
apparently he grabbed another elder by the throat, put him up against a wall in the back room and punched him in on the nose... during an elders meeting on thursday evening after the meeting.. the congregation were running round like headless chickens wondering what to do?
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Strange they should argue over something there's a clear WT ruling on.
It's clear but a little vague at the same time. It's the Watchtower way!
From freddo's post:
Whether a disfellowshipped person sits next to a relative or next to any other member of the congregation should not be a cause for concern as long as he behaves properly.
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If all present, including faithful relatives, are endeavoring to respect Bible principles relating to disfellowshipping, and it is not becoming a cause for stumbling to the brothers
Assuming that all the elders were aware of the quoted article there could have been disagreement over whether the DF'd person was behaving properly, whether the relatives were "endeavoring to respect Bible principles" regarding DF'd people (watchtower speak for no undue association, I suppose), or whether it was stumbling others.
There is plenty of room there for interpretation and disagreement.
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The hard cover version is $34.99 at Amazon.
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Link at Amazon to order from,
Edit: Oops, didn't work.
Go to Amazon and type in Crisis of Conscience Franz, select the Books category. After the search completes scroll down past the old versions of the book to the new one, no pic at this time, but you can order it at $25.99 and it will ship in a day or two when it is available. This is for the paperback version.
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As I recall from the video it is available from Amazon (the first outlet for it) on the evening of March 4 in e-format, and between March 6 and 9 in print.
Dykstra also said it will eventually be available from 40,000 outlets, within 2 to 8 weeks, in the U.S., Canada, Australia, Asia and Europe. It will also be in Universities and public libraries.
I have no idea about price but am keeping my fingers crossed that it will be reasonable.
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This is outstanding news. I was beginning to wonder if this day would ever come.
Crisis of Conscience is now over 600 pages long due to extra features and photos added by Deborah Dykstra.
Available in soft cover, hard cover, and e-format.
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In one sentence, can you pinpoint a single event that woke you up?
by Brian J inmy turning point: serving on a child abuse judicial case.
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Changing the Bible's words at the baptism talk was huge.
Mt 28:19, 20 says to baptize '...in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the holy spirit.'
Watchtower baptizes '...in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of God's spirit directed organization.'
JWs are now baptized in the name of their own Organization, while holy spirit has been reduced to nothing more than an adjective describing that organization. Does anything scream CULT more than this?
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Funny JW joke...Bill Maher
by James Mixon inhawaii false missile alert... the people of hawaii ran home and closed their blinds and drapes, were you hoping the missile would think you weren't home.
it's a war head not a jehovah witness.....
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I got a good laugh out of that! Thanks.
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A conversation with M. James Penton (Watchtower historian, author and former elder)
by oppostate injohn cedars' youtube channel has a new video interview with james penton.
lloyd asks some good questions and jim provides excellent insights about jw history and where the movement may be headed.. i had the pleasure of meeting jim and his former wife, now passed away, at the christian believers conference (of bible students).
http://www.cbconference.com/.
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It was nice to put a voice and a personality to the name. I am very impressed with Jim Penton and his books will be on my list of things to read. Thanks for the post!
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Reminder: super blue moon tonight
by _Morpheus injust a reminder :) i already snapped a few pics and will try to get a few of the blood moon in the morning.
post pics if you got them!.
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Watch out Folks. I am running to the KH now to get reinstated.
Lol. Okie dokie then.