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  2.16.2017 NJ Star-Ledger Ad: "Were you sexually abused by the Jehovahs Witnesses?"

  by breakfast of champions in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  my wife found this 1/4 page ad on page 2 of yesterday's nj star-ledger, probably the biggest newspaper in nj.

  pretty telling.. .

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  Their only concern is about a good public name for the "org", well that is now in tatters! (Half Banana)
  

  How embarrassing for the Governing Body, the Organization, the elders, and all of JWs.

  The reputation they are getting is just the opposite of what the Bible speaks of in listing the qualifications of being an elder...

  7 Moreover, he should also have a fine testimony from people on the outside... 1 Tim 3:7

  If an organization is made up of elders and others having a "fine testimony from people on the outside" then the entire Organization should have the same reputation, but instead Watchtower and all of JWs are being humiliated, and they brought it on themselves.

  The reputation they thought they had was in their own minds anyway, but this shameful public exposure should shock more than a few JWs. Many, hopefully, will wake up over it.
  
  
  
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  In praise of Randall Watters

  by nicolaou in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  exjw's of a certain age will remember randy's site well.

  freeminds was instrumental in waking me up along with ray franz's books.

  if net soup and armageddon okies mean nothing to you you're probably under 30.. whatever caused randy to post what he did recently is something i can only guess at but it won't be what i remember him for.. randy, i wish you well and thank you for all you've done over the years .

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  Several years ago I made a very small contribution to the FreeMinds website via Paypal.. In no time at all I received a very gracious 'thank you' email from Randy, which both surprised and impressed me (not surprised that he would say thank you, but surprised that I received it so quickly). I became immediately aware that he is first class all the way.
  
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  In praise of Randall Watters

  by nicolaou in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  exjw's of a certain age will remember randy's site well.

  freeminds was instrumental in waking me up along with ray franz's books.

  if net soup and armageddon okies mean nothing to you you're probably under 30.. whatever caused randy to post what he did recently is something i can only guess at but it won't be what i remember him for.. randy, i wish you well and thank you for all you've done over the years .

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  Two thumbs up to the work of Randy Watters!
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  Giving money is thrilling?

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  watchtower study edition nov 16 pg 19. classic............................ .

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  Dreamerdude: Of course they can be happified when they see the results shining as gold Rolex watches and iWatches on JWTV.

  Even being full awake I am still a little shocked when I see Watchtower's blatant requests for money and other valuables.

  GB members have no problems flashing gold jewelry and watches in their public and TV appearances, while at the same time asking you to give yours to the Organization. The Charitable Planning brochure shows many ways you can be 'thrilled,' including donating your jewelry.
  

  

  
  
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  New flip flop document - updated from last year

  by Splash in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  about this time last year i uploaded a document as part of my going away post.. as stated at the time i had to lie low, and am still doing so.

  sort of.

  mostly.i pop up rarely to chip in when my 'ardour comes up into my nose' about something lol, but still read the leaks and back-and-forth between the members here.

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  Thank you Splash. Yes, this is an excellent piece of work. I downloaded the first one a year ago, and just now downloaded the update.
  
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  The Amazing Teeth of the Great White Shark

  by LoveUniHateExams in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  great white sharks are able to subdue and eat almost anything they come across, thanks to their amazing teeth.

  consider: the great white shark (carcharodon carcharias) needs to catch and process food in order to survive.

  its teeth are remarkable, being arranged in rows and rows that move forward, like a conveyor belt, so that these animals always have a full set of functioning teeth at any one time.. furthermore, the shape of this shark's teeth changes throughout its life.

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  @ Giles Gray

  Lol. Oh yes!
  

  You know how tough sea weed can be. And it's fast too. They need those sharp, triangular shaped teeth, row after row of them, to grab it and take out big chunks of it.
  
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  2017 Yearbook released

  by bohm in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i saw this on reddit:.

  https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/5mlgsm/2017_yearbook_of_jehovahs_witnesses/.

  overall the numbers are better than last year (1.8% growth compared to 1.5% last year -- as i predicted ;-) ) with an increase in all major figures including 1300 more congregations (i assume this is not physical kingdom halls?).

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  ...letters www mean the number 666 in Revelation. This is the country where JWs claimed 22% growth over the last year.

  That looks like something JWs themselves might have said not so many years ago. Superstition is as superstition does. Watchtower is getting what it deserves.

  The people coming into the Organization are probably just as superstitious as their critics.
  
  
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  2017 Yearbook released

  by bohm in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i saw this on reddit:.

  https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/5mlgsm/2017_yearbook_of_jehovahs_witnesses/.

  overall the numbers are better than last year (1.8% growth compared to 1.5% last year -- as i predicted ;-) ) with an increase in all major figures including 1300 more congregations (i assume this is not physical kingdom halls?).

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  ......comment from a sister who says watching the Governing Body on JW broadcasting is like listening directly to Jehovah.

  “I feel as if Jehovah were talking to me right in my room when I listen to members of the Governing Body and their helpers,” says Agatha, a circuit overseer’s wife in Ghana.

  Isn't a remark like this clearly promoting creature worship, making the G.B. seem like the equivalent of God? And from a Circuit Overseers wife no less. (I assume that both quotes above refer to the same remark in the Year Book.)

  If I was an active Witness I would be longing for the teachings of Fred Franz, with the types and anti types, the King of the North and South explanations, and the "deep" understandings of prophecy. Of course it was all wrong, and F. Franz was a false prophet, but at least it was something you could get your teeth in to and it made you feel good about being a Witness.

  Remarks like the above quotes come across as nothing more than immature fluff. I guess it's the GB's way of promoting itself as the source of truth on earth, but it is incredibly naive and transparent of them, making it obvious that Watchtower is just another man-made religion.

  How could there not be a decline after a few years of this?
  
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  Is the year 2020 the new prediction for Armageddon?

  by Disassociated Lady 2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have had a conversation this evening with a jw friend i have known since childhood.

  he is of the opinion that armageddon will have come and gone within the next 5 years.

  are the jws now pinpointing 2020 as the supposed year?

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  I remember the talk and opinions of Witnesses in the 1970s. A Circuit Overseer would give a talk about how close the end was, then you would hear Witnesses say "the system can't last two more years," or "the world won't last another year."

  I haven't heard anything about 2020, but in general the opinions of JWs about the end of the system are worth nothing.
  
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  2017 Yearbook released

  by bohm in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i saw this on reddit:.

  https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/5mlgsm/2017_yearbook_of_jehovahs_witnesses/.

  overall the numbers are better than last year (1.8% growth compared to 1.5% last year -- as i predicted ;-) ) with an increase in all major figures including 1300 more congregations (i assume this is not physical kingdom halls?).

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  Slimboyfat: There is the component of commitment and enthusiasm to consider.

  I think this speaks volumes, and leads to another component of measuring true growth or decline, but unfortunately it's something we can't measure because Watchtower won't disclose it.

  Donation money.

  If there is zero growth, or even a decline, in many advanced countries, there must be some who are still for various reasons but not committed, whose donations have declined along with their enthusiasm.

  Donations are likely declining much more than the number of people, which would be a major problem for Watchtower.