Thumbs up to Freewheeling. The GB making themselves the Faithful and Discreet Slave was jaw dropping to me.
If I hadn't already been out for years that would have opened my eyes a bit.
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Notable changes of the JWs org, in the last five years or so
by glenster ini've been updating the links at my web site and i'm working on the gtjbrooklyn pages now.
what would you say are the several biggest changesin the jws organization/rules in the last five years or so?
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This is Just getting Ridiculous and out of hand with the Borg
by MrsR-Awaken insaw this on reddit it was posted by user morgan_sparlock .
to me honestly this would of been prohibited 10 years ago, but now every dub is obsessed with this website, it's everywhere even a damn iphone cover... ooh they don't approve of idolatry ooh no they don't accept cross veneration thats bullshit to me!!!
its getting to a point that they are venerating this website (company logo) it's their version of the cross.
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Bloodless Medicine....not all its cracked up to be.
by Lee Elder inthis is a pretty good example of the limitations of "bloodless medicine", and why the informed choice should always be "blood conservation" medicine, which retains the safety net of blood transfusion when medically required.
sadly, the watchtower fails to inform jws regarding these important limitations, and their potentially disastrous consequences.. http://www.dailyreportonline.com/id=1202750028414/jury-awards-100k-to-family-of-jehovahs-witness-who-died-after-refusing-blood-transfusion?mcode=0&curindex=0&curpage=3&slreturn=20160118223352.
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To continue reading, become a free AML didital reader
I'd like to read it too but I don't want to become anything.
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Help finding a video of GB member saying that Jehovah may not really be God's name
by mamacita29 inhi everyone i'm at work and need to show this video to a jw.
i saw it a few weeks ago i think it was geoffry jackson who said that jehovah may or may not be gods real name but we use it anyways.
can someone help me find that video?
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Mad Irishman: Some you you have let your hatred rot your brain out from reality, history, and common sense. Jehovah is the English translation of YHWH. Before the 20th Century all Christians of every faith used Jehovah as the English name for God. It isn't a witness thing!
It wasn't anyone here that said the form JEHOVAH wasn't the most accurate pronunciation of God's name, it was the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses, represented by Geoffrey Jackson. He said....
Why do we use the name 'Jehovah' in English? Is it because it is the most accurate pronunciation? No. It is because it is the most widely accepted. Does this make sense? Yes.
It is JWs themselves that acknowledge there is a more accurate pronunciation. So why do they go with the less accurate form, Jehovah? Because it's more widely accepted by the world and by Churches.
This has nothing to do with hatred, rotten brains, nor deviation from reality, history or common sense (Could you ease up on the name calling a tiny bit?). It has to do with accuracy of translation, which Jehovah's Witnesses normally make a big issue of, but for some reason in this case they are taking the opposite approach.
Embracing what is commonly accepted is usually rejected by JWs on many, many topics, which they say is evidence they have the truth, that they are separate from the world and from apostate Christedom. Why would they now support the commonly accepted view knowing it isn't the most accurate?
You would think that getting the Divine Name right, or at least as close as can be determined, would be important to JWs since they claim to be the only true representatives of God on earth.
Mad Irishman: It isn't a witness thing!
Exactly. It's a worldly thing. That's the problem.
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A list of top You tubers out there worth visiting, please add yours.
by pleaseresearch ini'm an unbelieving but baptised jw.
i woke up to ttatt around 4 years ago.
i haven't been regular to meetings for nearly 10 years.
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Susan Gaskin.
She has a good series, up to #9 I think, as of now.
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Help finding a video of GB member saying that Jehovah may not really be God's name
by mamacita29 inhi everyone i'm at work and need to show this video to a jw.
i saw it a few weeks ago i think it was geoffry jackson who said that jehovah may or may not be gods real name but we use it anyways.
can someone help me find that video?
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Is the Trinity widely accepted? Yes. Does it make sense for JWs accept it? No.
Is the concept of an Immortal Soul widely accepted? Yes. Does it make sense for JWs accept it? No
Is the idea of all good people Going to Heaven widely accepted? Yes. Does it make sense for JWs accept it? No.
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Geoffrey Jackson: Why do we use the name 'Jehovah' in English? [...] It is because it is the most widely accepted. Does this make sense? Yes.
Straightening out the proper pronunciation of the Divine Name would have been a perfect opportunity for JWs to take a stand for the 'Truth,' but instead they took the route of convenience, which is to support what is 'widely accepted' by the world.
Convoluted thinking and double standards are the trade mark of the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses.
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Protest for Mandatory Reporting?
by Luther bertrand inon another thread, i have been having a discussion about protests in connection with watchtower policy.
one of the biggest and more re-occuring rebuttals to protesting at kingdom halls and assemblies is that it does two things: 1. it re-enforces the apostate "mentally diseased" narrative heaped on the xjw community by the gb 2. it causes people to withdraw and get closer to the borg.. what if we as a group took the protest to city halls and government authorities to raise awareness of the need for mandatory reporting laws, rather than protesting @jw events?
hell even geoffry jackson, when he gave his testimony at the arc, agreed that it would be "helpful".
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I believe education is far more effective than protest when it comes to religion. Web sites like this one, JWfacts and others are the answer to waking up Jehovah's Witnesses.
Watchtower itself operates behind the concept of 'freedom of religion.' That won't change, and all the protest in the world will probably be counter productive. However the people within the religion can come out of it, and that will happen better through education than anything else.
Just my thoughts.
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DA letter sent... It was weird!
by Mandrake inwell i was telling you days ago that i wrote my da letter... i decided to deliver it myself to the elders.
it'a been about a year i didn't show up nor talk to the majority of old friends.
one of my best friends (who's is 2-3 years older than me, i'm 25) is now an elder... some times i don't understand him, he's an engineer from a prestigious university (the most prestigious universities here in chile, are 2, the one from where he got his degree and the one i'm attending)... he even red crisis of conscience and has doubts... but still endured inside.. my congo were based in our historic city downtown, so our territory was small... i parked my car near the hall and walked near for a while while the meeting was over.
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...it seems that this is the longest thing I ever wrote in English that it's not academic!
Your broken English is beautiful and a pleasure to read. Thank you!
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GB bites off more than they can chew!
by biblexaminer inthe gb bit off more than they can chew.
they promised that the nwt revised would be available in so many languages by now, and they have failed miserably.. english stands alone.
as a result, they are in damage control mode.
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Thanks for the information Biblexaminer.
It should come as no surprise by now that you can't believe the experiences and quotes in Watchtower's literature, but it still does.
If the original remarks (from the 11-1-07 W) are being dishonestly recycled to make them appear to be recent remarks praising the rNWT (in the 12-15-15 W), then how do we know the original remarks aren't lies too?
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Music Video: Would Jesus Wear a Rolex on JW Broadcasting? - PARODY
by cappytan inthis took quite a while this evening.
so worth it though.
hope you enjoy!
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Makemeanunbeliever: It doesn't take much effort to find and mock flaws. It takes greater effort and caring to point out the strengths.
Exactly what strengths was Watchtower pointing to when it wrote this...
The Watchtower, August 15, 1994: "In stark contrast, news reports have time and again revealed many of the clergy in some lands to be pedophiles, immoral swindlers, and frauds. Their works of the flesh and their extravagant life-styles are manifest for all to see. One popular songwriter expressed it well in his song entitled "Would Jesus Wear a Rolex [a very expensive gold watch] on His Television Show?"
Does it matter if the GB members wear real Rolexes or not? Watchtower has constantly reminded JWs that they should never imitate the world. The pinky rings, gold watches and other gold jewelry that is being flashed are clearly in imitation of the very thing Watchtower is condemning in the song that is referred to in the above quote.
If you are going to badmouth someone for a certain behavior, you should distance yourself from that same behavior, not imitate it. Whether the jewelry is real or fake is beside the point.