# 10 - along with br.
blanks comment, we can see it's important not to gossip and spread rumors, and some people in here need to start applying that in there lives, and get out of my business!.
# 9 - we know we're in the last days... when i was at the movies yesterday watching scream part 3, i could see how the actors in the movie couldn't get along and solve a problem without cursing and swearing all over the place.. # 8 - i know we're all witnesses, so can i get a witness.... # 7 - uh, excuse me brother, but your talk is going overtime and kfc closes in 15 minutes, you know what i'm saying?.
39. Special Announcement: Regarding the recent disaster, we're going to try something new and help ALL those who need it, not just our Brothers and Sisters!
40. Merry Christmas!
41. And Happy New Year!
Matthew Hill
Saratoga Springs, NY Congregation Refugee
jw:.
reasoning book, copyright 1985:.
astostasy is abandoning or deserting the worship and service of god, actually a rebellion against jehovah god.
I often thought that Christ would have been classified as an apostate by the definition in that reasoning book (and many other publications). He came with, what was at the time, a radical way of thinking. Something so preverse to so many that they just had to put him to death. Also, interestingly enough, the WBTS has stated that, since they can no longer put a violater of (their) God's word to death, they've instated themselves a method of punishment in it's place, that of disfellowshipping and shunning. It's funny that they say this, as the Bible clearly defines the role of the Christian Congregation in regards to wrongdoers. That role (In the Bible) consists mostly of Brotherly Love and encouragement, and if all else fails a reduction of association outside the Temple (eating a meal with such a person). It's so sad, because for so long we believe they have the truth, and there is no better, and the rest of the world is no good.....only to be tossed aside after years of dedication like garbage (and not even recycled, haha).
May God have mercy on their souls.
Hi Sis :)
please help this girl save her family!
make sure you fill it in and notorize it.
law office of pete n. vlahos.
Ummmmm, no Genius...I don't want you to do anything....This lady's case is much better without you if you can't figure out to put your own information in before having it notorized. Hey Don, I see what you mean....Just thought I'd try helping someone out, but this is like banging my head against the floor. I think Deborah has more information on this, that's where I got it from. She probably will be emailing you. Come on ICQ once in a while, oh and I was thinking, we gotta get that camping trip going before hunting season....
Matthew Hill
Saratoga Springs, NY Congregation Refugee
please help this girl save her family!
make sure you fill it in and notorize it.
law office of pete n. vlahos.
That's not true. I Won my custody battle. 100% full custody, not even shared, so I KNOW it can be done. Against all odds, I won....and that doesn't happen very often for fathers.
Matthew Hill
Saratoga Springs, NY Congregation Refugee
please help this girl save her family!
make sure you fill it in and notorize it.
law office of pete n. vlahos.
PLEASE HELP THIS GIRL SAVE HER FAMILY! MAKE SURE YOU FILL IT IN AND NOTORIZE IT
LAW OFFICE OF PETE N. VLAHOS
Attorney for Respondent
2661 Washington Blvd., Suite 203
Ogden, Utah 84401
Telephone: 621-2464
Fax: 621-4871
IN THE SECOND JUDICIAL DISTRICT COURT, STATE OF UTAH
WEBER COUNTY, OGDEN DEPARTMENT
LEONARD ESAU MARTINEZ ) AFFIDAVIT OF
) {NAME}
Petitioner )
Vs. ) Civil No. 984901280DA
)
SABRINA MARIA MARTINEZ, nka ) Commissioner Scott M. Hadley
MONTGOMERY ) Judge Roger S. Dutson
)
Respondent )
STATE OF UTAH )
:SS
COUNTY OF WEBER )
COMES NOW {NAME}, having been duly sworn and states:
1. RESIDENT. I am a resident of the Commonwealth of PA, over the age of 18, and fully competent to make this Affidavit.
PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE.
1. I was a member of JW for 22 years.
2. I walked away due to personal beliefs in 1998.
3. Since then, I have had little contact with friends and family who are still JW due to shunning.
4. My grand daughter has not been with me for 2 years.
5. I feel shunning has had a negative impact on my family life by…………
DATED this ________ day of June, 2001.
_________________________________________
Your name
SUBSCRIBED AND SWORN to before me this _____ day of ______, 2001.
__________________________________________
NOTARY PUBLIC
Matthew Hill
Saratoga Springs, NY Congregation Refugee
i have just bought the new eagles cd..........it's just brilliant !
(inmho) .
i remember being told in times gone by, that there were def.
Hello, I have a comment or two about this subject. I as well remember the claims concerning "Hotel California". it was not only the JW who had this view, although perhaps they started the whole thing. I read an interview with an them, and they said that the person in the window was not anton, but it was a drunken woman who stumble into the picture. They thought it looked cool, so they picked that one for the cover. Then a few years ago, (actually i believe this came first), before Anton had died, he stated in a television interview that he was not the one in the picture, answering a question pertaining to it. However, supposedly there is back masking in the song. A friend of mine showed this to my brother, by simply turning the head in a tape deck around somehow. I myself did not witness this, but according to the two of them, they heard it. I don't have a tape decl to tear apart to hear this myself.....but now that the question is brought up, perhaps I'll give it a try. I forget what exactly the back masking is suppose to contain, maybe someone else has heard of this? I'm going to try and see if I can somehow figure out how to do it, if I do, i'll repost for everyone's enjoyment!
Matthew Hill
Saratoga Springs, NY Congregation Refugee
>> capitol hill prayer alert .
box 7334 .
>> arlington, va 22207 .
HAHA, Just to clarify things, I got this is an email. I don't really have an opinion on it as of yet. Before I could make a clear decision on it, I'd have to research more into it. I posted it as a matter of interest.....in the opinions of others. I am a firm believer in that we are here (On Earth) as a learning experience, and part of that learning experience is listening and learning from others.
God Bless,
Matthew Hill
Saratoga Springs, NY Congregation Refugee
>> capitol hill prayer alert .
box 7334 .
>> arlington, va 22207 .
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>> Capitol Hill Prayer Alert
>> P.O. Box 7334
>> Arlington, VA 22207
>> Telephone: (703) 754-3629
>> Fax: (703) 754-3838
>> Website: http://www.prayeralert.org
>> E-Mail: [email protected]
>> ******************************
>>
>> Federal Funding for Embryo Stem Cell Research:
>>
>> WHAT DOES GOD THINK?
>> While the President is "Thinking About it"?
>>
>> Overview:
>> The last minute drive to persuade President Bush to renege on his
promises
>NOT TO ALLOW FEDERAL FUNDING OF FETAL STEM CELL RESEARCH seems to be
>working. President Bush says, "I'm thinking about it," but appears to be
>looking for a "compromise."
>>
>> * From a Biblical perspective, the destruction of a human being at any
>stage of life and development IS MURDER! Like deliberate abortion and child
>sacrifice, IT IS AN ABOMINATION! (Dt 29:18-29; Lev 20:1-5; 26:27-30; Ps
>139:13-19; Pr 6:16-17; 9:17-18; Ecc 12:14; Eph 5:11-14; Mt 5:21-22)
>>
>> * Does God care about Alzheimer's patients? Of course. But will He
>countenance the systematic conception and murder of human infants for
>experiments, the aim of which is to make more such murders and
>cannibalization a routine part of American life? NO, NEVER!
>>
>> * Will it work? Will God allow the utter defiance of His laws to bring
>healing to expectant disease sufferers? Probably not! Nothing truly
positive
>can spring from spiritual wickedness.
>>
>> * Will God wink? We may have the technology but we do not have the
>authority to begin, then destroy human life. If these technologies work,
>will God allow us use them? God rules and judges nations by His eternal
>moral law. He will assuredly punish any nation that ascribes such God-like
>power to itself.
>>
>> * George Bush can close the lid on Pandora's box, at least for a time.
>Opening it will mean subordinating sacred human life to a new
>Frankenstein-like scientific imagination, unrestrained by the fear of God.
>>
>> * One "compromise" being discussed would allow the experimental use only
>of "spare" embryos that would otherwise be destroyed. Any such "compromise"
>will nevertheless push America across a new moral threshold permanently and
>any limits will be circumvented.
>>
>> A "compromise" would force God-fearing Americans to finance murders and
>experiments against their wills and consciences. And it would put America
in
>the path of catastrophic Divine judgment. Christians, we must prevail in
>prayer for our President in this hour!
>>
>> Please Join Us in Believing Prayer:
>>
>> * Heavenly Father, SPEAK TO GEORGE BUSH! Cause him to know Your Heart &
>Mind. Give him COURAGE to do what is right, to DEFY all ungodly political
>advice & to say NO COMPROMISE!
>>
>> * Stand by the President & ENABLE him to stand by You. Compel President
>Bush utterly to REJECT federal funding for embryo stem cell research In
>Jesus's Name, Amen (Dt 31:6; 1 Kg 22:6-7; 1 Chr 22:13; 2 Chr 15:8; Mt
>17:20-21; 19:26).
>>
>> ******************************
>> To make this a little clearer...People could get pregnant just to turn around to sell the embryos. Imagine the drug addicts that would make a quick buck on killing the unborn. And please don't think that this will be a controlled use of goverment power because it wouldn't be.
Matthew Hill
Saratoga Springs, NY Congregation Refugee
i knew a presiding overseer in the congregation i attened who was possibly the strangest person i ever met.
he took a rigorous position toward the society's view on everything!!!
he was against many things ....including....science fiction, fantasy, the x-files, disneyland, cartoons and football.
Matthew Hill
Saratoga Springs, NY Congregation Refugee
i knew a presiding overseer in the congregation i attened who was possibly the strangest person i ever met.
he took a rigorous position toward the society's view on everything!!!
he was against many things ....including....science fiction, fantasy, the x-files, disneyland, cartoons and football.
This story (about the Trask family) caught my eye, and I for a minute I thought you were talking about a family I knew. Their last name was Griffo though. Really nice ppl, kind hearted, but crazier than fruit loops. The father was a painter as well, and they moved from cong. to cong all over the country. I remember when I was a child, they were in our cong. in Saratoga Springs, but then moved on, out west to Oregon, Arizona, California....all over the place. (The mother's family, the Whites, were pretty wild as well. Her brother stood up in 1st grade and told all the Catholic children they were going to die at the hands of Jehovah.....they all went home crying). There's not enough room on the Internet to share the amount of stories I have from this family. At 15, we moved to AZ, and at 16 I moved back to NY, by that time they also had moved back. I met up with one of their kids, my age...we were in his car, and he stopped off at his house, and I'm in the back seat of his jeep waiting. All of a sudden, his dad, Larry comes flying out of his front door with a huge sword.....runs to the car and tries to stab me with it, yelling some kinds of crazy African sounding something or another. He kept jabbing that sword into the back seat, and I'm squirming all over the place....I make it out of the car, and Larry chases me down the street....in nothing but his underwear! It was great (especially being that I survived). They had like 5 or 6 kids, and I hung out with them alot, they were more fun than the rest of them. Larry Jr. took the cake (last I knew he was in Attica)...He was hanging out with us one night at another friend's house, and the father of this other friend had all sorts of meds (he was in Vietnam), so Larry gets ahold of something, valium I think, and swipes it. Next morning, Ruthie, the mom calls me up...."you have to come do something about Larry, he's on something!".....I go over there, and Larry (JR) is just out of it, took the whole bottle I think....anyway, he swears he's going to work, and what with the insanity in the family I wasn't arguing. So, he puts on his hockey skates, and off we go. He was working on a construction site, new condos. And he worked on the roof. He climbs up the ladder, somehow, took him a while (I stuck around for the show, in my car). He gets to the peak, and you know those big fires they have on construction sites, to warm up in the winter, and to dispose of the scraps? Yep, you got it right.....skated right down that 3 story roof, and right into that huge fire, funniest thing I think I've ever seen! The family was always dear to me though, they took no crap from the church, NONE, and I appreciated that. They moved to a town just outside Orlando, and we went to visit them once. What a trip....Larry (the father) had me out in the bayous in the middle of nowhere, and he was going to catch dinner (they ate anything). He finds a huge snapping turtle, and he's gonna catch it (mind you Larry was a very big man, biggest gut I ever seen) so, he jumps on this thing, and it takes off running, which I was amazed at the speed this thing got, especially with Larry on it's back.....he ran into the swamp, which was infested with alligators....and him and Larry were flying around this swamp like crazy, under water above water, it was insane....gaters licking their chops by now....finally Larry knew when to cut his losses and swam out (we ate cray fish that night, easier to catch). To say the least, this family was not all there, but like I said, very kind hearted. I was upset to hear this past weekend that they're not together anymore, and the kids are scattered all over the country....so sad. And their one son (Sean, with the jeep) has passed away. I haven't been in contact with the family in years due to my disfellowshipping, but if anyone reading this ever runs into any of them, please send my love. Ruth Griffo, I believe is in Coos Bay, OR area, I believe Sean (who passed away) was in the Davenport, FL cong. And the rest of them I don't have a clue. This type of thing has been the hardest for me to deal with, as with all the rest of us DF/Possessed members....
Matthew Hill
Saratoga Springs, NY Congregation Refugee
