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  I miss being a JW

  by joelbear in

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  it seems the more time goes by, the more i miss being a jw.. i miss my friends.

  i miss the feeling of safety of the group.. i miss having hope.. i miss it a lot..

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  lv4fer

  I'm not sure how anyone can go back. I do know if you go back it will never be like when you were there at first. It's like if you move away and you have all your friends, a few years go by and you go back to visit. Your so excited because your going back to be with them and when you get there you realize it is not the same. You've changed, grown, etc and they are the same. You don't fit in like you use to. Get involved in some activities that you enjoy, you'll find new friends. If you are missing hope, try reading the bible and perhaps joining a small bible study.
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  Disassociating myself ...

  by dedalus in

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  well, it had to come to this eventually.. this winter my wife and daughter and i celebrated christmas with my in-laws, with whom we currently live (high school english teachers don't make much money!).

  my in-laws have been inactive for about two years, and this year, they decided to celebrate the holidays.

  one reason for this is that their son, who is eight, has multiple disabilities -- can't see, trouble hearing, other, quite sever, issues -- and christmas, with its presents and wrapping and loud carols and trees and wreaths is, well, a very accessible experience for him, the way, say, my kingdom ministry and the watchtower are not.. well, as a household we went all out.

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  lv4fer

  My heart goes out to you. How is your brother-in-law. I think your letter is right to the point! Happy birthday to your daughter!
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  JW or Catholic scandal worse?

  by JH in

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  do you think that the pedophile problem in the watchtower organization is just as important as in the catholic church?

  if we knew the statistics, and found out that there were a lot fewer pedophiles in the watchtower org.

  than in other religions, would this be a victory on their part?

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  lv4fer

  Catholic is a much bigger problem. (more Catholics than JW) Not worse. Both are horrible. And with the Catholic you have people in authority using their authority to their advantage. Priests, Nuns etc. With the JW's it just the people within, some may be elders but that isn't the same as a Priest. But the JW's disfellowship those who come forward, at least the Catholics don't do that.
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  Do You Still Believe In Some Of The JW Religion?

  by SpannerintheWorks in

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  which beliefs do you hold on to that you may have previously rejected as a non-jw?.

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  lv4fer

  You know this was a great question! When I first sstarted questioning things, I thought just a few things were wrong. As I started studying the bible it was like my eyes were opened. I would take a topic like resurrection and the more I read the more I knew they were wrong. Then the Trinity that was a big one...because I was convinced they were right about that; After many months of study I understand the Trinity and the key is that what they say the trinity is not true. They twist things; They actually teach a polytheist teaching. They believe in more than one God. They teach a big God and a little god; The bible does not teach that. What the bible does teach is a Tri-Unity which is really what the Trinity is all about, Anyway the more I study the more what the believe proves to be untrue. Of course they do teach good morals and that is good, but their doctrines are all screwed up.
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  "Apostate" Books

  by mackey in

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  here's a list of books that i have read with the hopes of getting my best freind out of the jw's.. 1. crisis of conscience ( she has it, don't know if she'll read it).. 2. in search of christian freedom.. 3. combatting mind control.. 4. releasing the bonds- empowering people to think for themselves.. 5. rescueing your loved one from the watchtower.

  (david reed).

  6. answering jw's subject by subject.. 7.awakening of a jw (diane wilson).

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  lv4fer

  I gave my dad Conciense in Crisis and he read most of it and is still in. But he did celebrate Christmas with us this year (my childrens first time ever) He says he understands why I left and he would never shun me but he still thinks its Jehovahs organization because he has to have an organization. My dad was brought up Catholic and he views all other Christian religions like the Catholics.
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  Anyone know Ken and Stephanie Sellman?

  by lv4fer in

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  does anyone know ken and stephanie sellman.

  they are originally from the ohio area.

  they lived in auberry and fresno california they served there because the need was great.

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  Does anyone know Ken and Stephanie Sellman. They are originally from the Ohio area. They lived in Auberry and Fresno California they served there because the need was great. They then went to Gilead School and they went somewhere Spanish-speaking she got hurt and they came back to Ohio, they live there now with their daughter. Unforturnately I studied with her before I got baptised. She was spunky! He was a great speaker. I'm sure they are still in the lie. I wonder if anyone that zealous for the lie can wake up and see it for what it is? IS it possible?
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  They just came to my door!

  by 4christ in

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  eek...... i just had a visit from 2 lady jws!

  i was totally caught off guard.

  my dogs barked at em so i had to put them out before i could answer.

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  Great Job! I hope if I'm ever in that situation I can do as well as you did. If they do come back, you might want to ask them when the fall of Babylon was. They will say 607BCE and you can ask them how do they come up with that date. Is there any archaeological evidence that supports that date. What date does all evidence point to....587BCE. Well that will just mess everything all up. The 1914 date just crumbles. Of course you could tell them that Charles Taze Russel used Pyrmidology to come up with the dates not the bible. Or you could show them in the book of Revelation that the 144,000 and the Great Crowd end up in the same place.... Before the Throne. Where would the throne be.......how about heaven.
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  The USA and the 'Divine Mandate'

  by Abaddon in

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  having had a bizzare (for a european) preoccupation with american history in the 19th c, i do find that current american foreign policy still has implict in it the religiously inspired rationale that enabled americans to seriously claim that the ethnic cleansing of the west, and the genocidal behaviours that this often entailed, was because god wanted them to do it.. from certain newspaper articles i've read it seems as if some of those in the white house believe that bush getting in despite not having the majority of the popular vote was a sign, and that 9/11 backed up their belief that bush was a man put in a certain place for a certain time and role.

  that bible studies are a regular expected activity of white house staffers.. now, this makes me very nervous.

  i prefer my religious fanatics to come from developing countries that may have weapons of mass destruction, rather than from the most powerful millitary country in the world with more weapons of mass destruction than the rest of the world put together.. obviously just because it was in a newspaper doesn't mean it's true (yesterday's guardian i think).. but what do you think?.

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  I'm a Christian and I wouldn't trust Bush as far as I could throw him. He may say he is a Christian but I don't think he is on any God given mission to save us from the Evil of the world. I have my doubts that any "Christian" would be entertaining thoughts of going to war with another country as a means of maintaining peace-surface reason--real reason oil...money; or for the reason of "payback" for blowing up World Trade Centers. That just doesn't seem very Christian to me. Do Americans believe he is, not the ones I talk to or know.
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  My Introduction

  by Loris in

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  this is my introduction.

  i was baptized july 9, 1965 in san diego, california.

  37 years of my life devoted to a carefully contrived lie.

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  lv4fer

  WELCOME!!! Wow! what a story. I live in Prather, CA if your ever in the area, I'd love to hook up. My sister in-law who is a witness, use to live in San Diego and Monterey areas. Maybe you know her e-mail me.
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  Who still goes to meetings?

  by christopherceo in

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  just a curious question to see what types of stories i get.

  let's hear how you do it.

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  lv4fer

  The last meeting I went to was last years Memorial. My kids went once or twice after that. My daughter has one real close friend who went to her 8th grade graduation and that was the last time she got to see her. Her parents won't allow her to associate with my EVIL daughter. My daughter and her miss eachother deeply so her and I were talking the other day and she admitted that she would like to go to a meeting so she could see this girl, but figures everyone would probably stare and it would be rather uncomfortable. I would take her but I don't think I could sit through another meeting.