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  all work and no play makes jack a dull boy

  by badboybubbee in

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  all work and no play makes jack a dull boy .

  all work and no play makes jack a dull boy .

  all work and no play makes jack a dull boy .

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  LDH

  All Play and no Work makes Jack a poor boy.

  And God knows I'd rather be with a dull boy than a poor one anyday.
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  Questions for DFShipped...

  by LDH in

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  hi, dfs.. first of all, let me say it is not necessary to label yourself on this board, or anywhere on the internet for that matter.. so many of us have family members that are df'd, it really doesn't hold much water round here.

  i did have some questions for you though, which of course you don't have to answer.. 1. why were you disfellowshipped?

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  DFSHipped,

  Get 'cher hat out baby.

  Read the Nov 1 1999 QFR about voting. Read it VERY carefully.

  Gozz,
  Because in my little pea brain, what I did was no-freaking-where NEAR the wild orgies and Roman Bacchanalia that I think this scripture applies to. To me, fornication is an archaic word, and just because the WBTS uses it to describe my actions, I don't have to.

  DFShipped. I'll accept your apology as soon as you finish chewing. ;)
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  What should the WTBS do?!?!

  by LDH in

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  well guys sorry i haven't participated much lately, i've been really busy.

  but, i do have a question that i would really appreciate all of your input on.. it is no secret that young people are leaving jws faster and faster.

  it is no secret that most jws are disappointed, and hurt by lack of prophecy fulfillment.. so here's what i was thinking: i'm going to post some very personal thoughts on what *i* think they need to do in order to stop the loss of almost 50,000 disfellowshipped and probably 4x that to inactivity.

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  Latte,

  I've responded to your thread in parenting....

  JR,

  I haven't been posting here long enough to know your posting habits. But Trevor mentioned that you tend to quote a lot of scriptures.

  Would you classify those who don't quote scriptures as "babes to the truth" ? In other words, are you from the school of thought that says the more scriptures you know the more spiritual you are?
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  Am I welcome here?

  by WanderingStar in

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  i am currently df'd but seriously considering returning to the meetings with a view to reinstatement.

  i am looking for honest, open minded discussion.

  if i offend you all by being here, please let me know and i wont come back again.. thanks for reading this!

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  Wanderingstar,
  Just a note.

  As I told NickL via email, the ones here who may be labeled as 'bitter,' are in reality just HURTING.

  At the betrayal of friends and family because they choose to lead an *alternate lifestyle*, LOL, for lack of better words.
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  when the rain clears...

  by Deacon in

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  ive been reading thesr posts for a while, thinking on them, pondering as the wt has recommended over the years.. having grown up as a witness, and having been involved in both the boring and the more exciting parts of the ministry, i know what it is like to be part of a team, and more importantly , i know what its like to be a team player on gods side.

  and then one day, things start to unravel, the marriage, the relationship with bethel, the relationship with members in the congregations, and then, on another later day, suddenly you find yourself on the outside.. so, as time passes, a person begins to miss the association, the meetings, the laughter of the ministry groups, even the smell of the kingdom halls.....and effort is made to restore self to favour....and in time that too....comes to pass.. but here i am, a few years later, once more isolated, but this time by my own choice, beset by doubts and concerns over something that i held and hold sacred.. my circumstances have changed.

  i chose the path of marriage again, to a wonderful person that has filled my life with contentment without the pressures of having to be an elder or an example to others in the christian manner, for those that are or have been in positions of oversight, you will know what this means...and yes my wife is one raised as a witness, and having her own journey that she may or may not choose to share with you...in any case, i feel priveleged to know her just for the decent human she is.. so, here i am, watching, reading, thinking....and i admit to being a little lost.. firstly, 607, it may or may not be correct, frankly my dears.... the ever changing date of armaggeddon...well that would appear to be a previousness on the part of the leading lights...after a while it gets tedious and a little self defeating.... the meetings and requirements for field service...well as i see it, the bible indicates it is a requirement to meet together, and furthermore a requirement to tell others about jehovah....the application of the principles have become (almost law,) in order to belong to the organisation known as jehovahs witnesses...that is a minor problem, despite the best efforts from co's and do's from the platform, the unoffical stance is that if you aint cutting it.. you aint spiritual.. now,where im at in this stream of time, along with all the confusion about what is right and what is wrong, i have to just look for other confirmations that jehovahs time is at hand...if indeed it is near at all.. man is now developing life in vacuums, primitive cellular structures it may be, but the leaps of testing criteria has been enhanced by the use of computers to cut time.... man has the ability (proven) to destroy earth.. man is killing the earth.. now if i was the creator, and he once before destroyed civilisation when they built the tower of babel, i would be thinking that soon they would know stuff they shouldnt know, and in any case, the earthdewellers are so dumb they will destroy themselves..id better start big a... my concern is,, that in the bigger picture..does it really matter if we get it so wrong, so many times and so quickly?

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  he he

  Hopefully you don't still have the "Deacon Blues."

  (ok ok lame reference to Steeley Dan Aja CD)
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  How do you feel about smacking at K Hall?

  by Latte in

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  personally, it upsets me very much.

  or are there any other parents that found better, alternative ways of getting young children 'trained'?.

  i am not anti -smacking by the way,(except at the kh) but it is always the very last resort.. latte

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  I'm prone to agree with DrivesLikeJehu.

  I wouldn't ever discipline my child in that manner in front of others, but, if you think about it, <b> that's the way the congregation treats the adult members! </b>

  Punishes them openly when they commit an infraction in order to humiliate and embarrass them, of course this will make them want to behave temporarily! (but not for the right reasons)

  And as soon as they start thinking for themselves, they'll rebel. The children and the adults.

  When my daughter was younger, I had a whole bag of books for her to read, and then when she was older and able to control herself, I let her have UNLIMITED pens and paper.....

  She is ten. To this day I have probably only spanked her 10 times or less. Contrast that to the weekly spankings we got, he he. Although we were never really disciplined at the hall, more like Jehu. And it must be harder to control three small children than one, so maybe my parents felt they had too?!?!?

  Edited by - LDH on 1 February 2001 19:17:0
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  Questions for DFShipped...

  by LDH in

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  hi, dfs.. first of all, let me say it is not necessary to label yourself on this board, or anywhere on the internet for that matter.. so many of us have family members that are df'd, it really doesn't hold much water round here.

  i did have some questions for you though, which of course you don't have to answer.. 1. why were you disfellowshipped?

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  Thanks Venice. But I really was talking to *DFShipped.* That's his screen name, LOL....

  Lisa
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  Can You Believe THIS?

  by LDH in

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  from the jw-media site http://www.jw-media.org.

  ::::do you believe that you are the only ones who will be saved?.

  many millions who have lived in centuries past and who were not jehovah's witnesses will come back in a resurrection and have an opportunity for life.

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  OK HAPPY we heard you! ;)

  Notice I didn't use any other parameters for being a chosen purpose other than

  1: Loving Jehovah
  2: Loving our neighbors

  Religion puts a ton of other parameters on being 'chosen'.

  As to your other question, maybe:
  1. Adam and Eve saw immediately the results of being unfaithful. They had both been warned, tho Eve only by Proxy.
  2. Satan had not, according to any information we have, been warned about any behavior, therefore Jehovah told him after the fact what ramifications his behavior would have on the whole human race, but that would take a while.....

  my musings?!?!?

  Edited by - LDH on 1 February 2001 17:22:45
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  Heavenly Life Anyone?

  by ISP in

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  not the norm is it for a jw?

  basically we told that were not going there even if we thought/felt differently.. 1935 seems to have been a threshold of sorts with the id'ing of the 'great crowd' of revelation 7 as an earthly group.

  not saying i have the answers but i believe the position to be far from clear cut.. i wouldn't like to be on the wrong side of this rebuke!.

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  ha ha good one java.
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  NEW RELIGION! NEED INPUT!

  by TR in

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  this is sort of a take-off of the "what should the wt do" thread.. i need to get together a board of directors and elect a president and officers.

  we need to figure out a doctrine, a manifesto, and a set of disciplinary rules.

  we need to figure out a way to fund our new movement.

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  You may wish to ask ISP if he will do the work pro-bono.

  Lisa