I think most JW's don't want to talk about the bible. It's so confusing for them, your told to show personal interest in the house holder, that means talking bout what they want to talk about isn't it. 10% scriptures, 90% other stuff. You only bother with that if you actually like people, which JW's don't, they want them to hurry up & die. JW's don't even like each other that much.
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36A JW experience
by Saintbertholdt inthis is a quick experience i have recently had and i have two questions at the end.. a couple of weeks ago, the dogs were barking at the gate on saturday morning and wouldn't you know it, it was some witnesses.
there was a father with his lovely wife and their young daughter.
the father did all the talking as mother and daughter just dutifully smiled and watched.
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Thoughts during the meeting today
by stephanie61092 inwhile i'm politely sitting during the meeting today, restraining myself from rolling my eyes as the brother drones on about how "having an independent spirit is devilish in nature" and "independence from gods organization only results in pain and strife", i only have one thought going through my mind over and over.
"what would happen if i pulled out a gun and blew my brains out in this kingdom hall?".
would anyone notice or care?
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Sabin
Independence from gods org only leads to pain & strife.
Being part of god's org makes you want to take your life.
The choice is yours.
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Sabin
Geoffrey Jackson
Terrence O'Brien
Vincent Toole
Rodney Spinks
Ron de Rooy
Doug Jackson
Max Horley
Joe Bello
Dion Ali
and Kevin Bowditch
Did I miss anyone? After being part of a great cover up of child abuse within the Borganization & lying to the A.R.C. with no remorse, where the hell are they. Please do tell me that these men were taken into the back room with 3 prestigious elders who have never made a mistake in their Holier than holy lives & were disciplined. Loss of privileges, private reprove, public reprove, even disfellowshipping.
ANYBODY.
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Has a 'Christian' ever murdered somebody?
by goddidit ina jw made the claim "no christian [jw] has ever murdered anyone".. when i showed examples of such, the goalposts moved a bit with "was he a baptized, dedicated witness?".
can anyone provide examples of murders committed by "baptized, dedicated" jws?.
thanks.
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Watch the Deadly Devotion series. In Canada, Baptized JW shot his wife in front of her children then shot the children. Man it is a heart wrenching true story. -
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What is more important life or justice?
by Fisherman inthe outrage of injustice cries out for justice, vengeance, vindictiveness, retaliation, getting even -at any cost -even life.
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I would have to say justice. The problem with many is that they make their own justice & it is personal. That is the get even at any cost. That is my initial thought. I'm not quite sure if I'm being honest, it is more complex then that because people are complex if nothing else.
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We were all there at one time, we all went along with it even if it was in ignorance. Sometimes when I read or watch things about them I turn to my husband in absolute horror & ask if that was what I was like, he says no you weren't that is why you couldn't cope & had to get out.
So is it the JW'S that we hate so much or are we angry at ourselves because we went along as bystanders for a while in ignorance & it has left us with regret? Just a thought really.
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Sabin
There are some amazing jws, really nice individuals, collectively as a group they are cruel. They are stuck in a group think situation where they are all coerced in to thinking the same, cut off from outside realities, & forcibly silencing members that show any dissent by having them shunned. 100% cult, 100% wicked.
I would have to say that while I don't detest them they most certainly are not my most favourite people. Yes the fish rot's from the head down.
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Apostle Paul complex
by Diogenesister inif you can, take the time to read this beautifulfully written piece on what its like to live as a gay, enforced celibate witness.
the writer details experiences working for an organization that ostensibly lauds singleness, especially in the higher echelons and bethel , yet inevitability rewards the hard working singleton with a lonely old age and the "increasingly sinister " label of ' that weird single brother'.
the author compares this outcome with that of " eunuch for the lord" paul pondering the silence on his later life and wondering whether he similarly died " alone, largely forgotten and desperately waiting for the paradise ".http://avoidjw.org/2016/01/apostle-paul-complex/.
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What a beautiful & honest story, & what a sad situation for this man to have found himself in. The Borg is just an illusion of happiness. -
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RIP Terry Wogan
by LoveUniHateExams ini've just been reading the sad news that terry wogan has passed away after a short illness (cancer).
he was 77.. i admit that i wasn't necessarily a fan of his but he came across as such a nice, decent, softly-spoken and gentle individual.
he was also a successful broadcaster and presenter.. i hope his family realize how much he was loved and get the support that they need at this difficult time.
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His chat show was a weekly must when I was a kid, it so sad to hear, you always remember people how they were when you talk about them, it's easy to forget that they are growing old. -
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Oh yes they got it alright. What do you say though that they would refuse it. I'm not asking for the exact contents but wont your requesting them not to get in touch or your not going any more & saying so on paper equate to the same thing? Excuse my ignorance.