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  FUNERAL OUTLINE

  by freeatlast36 in

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  i knew it.

  march 28, 2014 at 9:57pm.

  nobody seemed to notice that i wasn't sitting with my immediate family.

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  Wfhen my time finally comes, my friends and family will be spared the outrage of a Witness funeral/memorial service.

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  "Foursquare" at Dachau

  by Quendi in

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  i hope someone can give me a quick answer to this question.

  the 1974 yearbook of jehovah's witnesses tells the story of the movement in germany with much detail about experiences witnesses had during the years of the third reich.

  one of the stories was about life in the dachau concentration camp when it was under the command of a man nicknamed "foursquare.

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  @emeth: :-) Actually, I have engaged in serious research in theoretical mathematics for quite a few years, so I know something about conducting it. I don't read or understand German, so I hesitated to move in that direction. Nor did I want to rely exclusively on Wikipedia and/or WTS sources with their well-known inaccuracies and other lacunae. Those were the chief reasons I enlisted the help of others and was very pleased to have received it. But you might want to learn a little more about a person before you pillory their character or abilities. If you learn to offer your assistance without looking down your nose at others, you will accomplish a lot of good. As Abraham Lincoln said once, "You'll draw more flies with a drop of honey than you will with a gallon of gall (vinegar)." That being said, I want to thank you again for your answers to my question. My gratitude goes as well to everyone else who contributed to this thread.

  Best,

  Quendi
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  "Foursquare" at Dachau

  by Quendi in

  1. watchtower
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  i hope someone can give me a quick answer to this question.

  the 1974 yearbook of jehovah's witnesses tells the story of the movement in germany with much detail about experiences witnesses had during the years of the third reich.

  one of the stories was about life in the dachau concentration camp when it was under the command of a man nicknamed "foursquare.

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  Thank you, fastjehu for the information. I still find it curious that Baranowski's name does not appear on any ledger, list or catalogue in connection with the Dachau concentration camp. I cannot help but wonder why. Could it be that there is some fear/superstition connected with his death from an undiagnosed illness that has prevented any acknowledgment of his command at Dachau? Or perhaps his tenure there was too short to merit an official mention? In any case, if half of what was said or written about him is true, his death was hardly an untimely one.

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  "Foursquare" at Dachau

  by Quendi in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i hope someone can give me a quick answer to this question.

  the 1974 yearbook of jehovah's witnesses tells the story of the movement in germany with much detail about experiences witnesses had during the years of the third reich.

  one of the stories was about life in the dachau concentration camp when it was under the command of a man nicknamed "foursquare.

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  Thanks, emeth. I have tried to find more information which would corroborate the Yearbook account. Baranowsky is not listed among the commanders' names for Dachau in the Wikipedia article on the camp. I then went to the official website (http://www.kz-gedenkstaette-dachau.de/index-e.html) and found no information about him there as well, and I checked using both his surname and the "Foursquare" nickname. Perhaps I am mistaken to think he was in command anytime at Dachau and was in charge of another camp? I hate to think the whole story was simply a fabrication on the part of the WTS. I will continue my research but I would also appreciate anyone else's input on this. Thanks again.

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  Updates on 2014 Shun Run

  by rawe in

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  our plans for this year's shun run continues.

  if you are in the phoenix area on saturday, april 12th consider coming out to papago park at 10am.

  we will walk 2.3 miles.

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  I'd love to see a "Shun Run" here in Denver!

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  "Foursquare" at Dachau

  by Quendi in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i hope someone can give me a quick answer to this question.

  the 1974 yearbook of jehovah's witnesses tells the story of the movement in germany with much detail about experiences witnesses had during the years of the third reich.

  one of the stories was about life in the dachau concentration camp when it was under the command of a man nicknamed "foursquare.

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  I hope someone can give me a quick answer to this question. The 1974 Yearbook of Jehovah's Witnesses tells the story of the movement in Germany with much detail about experiences Witnesses had during the years of the Third Reich. One of the stories was about life in the Dachau concentration camp when it was under the command of a man nicknamed "Foursquare." Can somebody look up that information in the Yearbook and give me his real name? Thanks in advance.

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  What do you think attracts new ones to the JW organization now?

  by cultBgone in

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  this is an offshoot from the jws then and now thread...it made me wonder what exactly people find attractive about the cult today?

  why are they joining?

  any thoughts?.

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  I'd like to add one several other points to cultBgone's excellent post: the racism, sexism and homophobia that are part and parcel of Witness culture. People of color hold very few positions of responsibility in the upper echelons of the organization. Women are not permitted to exercise any authority at all and must be "submissive" even to the point of wearing a head covering in certain situations when males (even underage ones) are present. And don't get me started on the open and unrelieved hostility the organization displays toward those of their members who are GLBT. They must remain in the closet, be completely celibate, and can never even hope to have a spouse or family of their own. The only thing "Christian" about Jehovah's Witnesses is their claim to be such, and that can easily be proved false.

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  Sad news ...

  by Oubliette in

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  LOL, my friend. Thanks for the laugh. When both of my younger brothers were pre-schoolers, they were fat in the stomach and I used to poke and squeeze their tummies all the time--to their constant annoyance. I got the idea from the Pillsbury Dough Boy character in the commercials.

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  When a JW relative came to visit . . . .

  by skeeter1 in

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  for those of you who are shunned, it is in disguise a blessing.

  becuase when you are not shunned, jws come to visit.

  it is the most tiresome hosting you will ever endure.. for the first 2 1/2 days, it was straight talk about "jehovah", the "organization", the "bible", then, "how bad these times are", "can't wait to see someone dead in the new world" .

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  Skeeter, your experience just makes me glad that I am disfellowshipped as I will never be subject to that kind of verbal assault. When I was a Witness and visited my non-Witness relatives, I seldom if ever brought up religion. Instead, I talked about my life and adventures in Colorado, what the rest of the family was doing, enjoying meals and sightseeing with them and other things that made for a very pleasant time. I think that had a lot to do with the reception I received when I had to move back to Birmingham, Alabama for some months in 2012 to recover from the economic recession as well as take care of my aged mother. My kinfolk were very happy to see me and treated me as the long-separated brother, cousin, nephew and uncle I was. Furthermore, they were very happy to learn that I had left the religion and had no intention of ever returning. The looks on their faces said, "High time!" even when they were too polite and tactful to say that out loud. Since my return to Colorado, I have maintained close ties with my family and am all the better for it. None of this would be possible if I were still a cult member.

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  Finally

  by Old Goat in

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  http://www.lulu.com/shop/b-w-schulz/a-separate-identity-organizational-identity-among-readers-of-zions-watch-tower-1870-1887/paperback/product-21541658.html.

  dr. de vienne tells me there are some problems with ebook formatting and it will be released later.

  until they review the advanced copy, it is only available on lulu.com.

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  An unvarnished version of the history of the Watchtower Society's earliest days is sorely needed. Not for the converted rank-and-file Witness who wouldn't touch the book with a ten-foot pole, but for us refugees and others who are interested in how this movement evolved from its relatively simple beginnings in post-Civil War America into the Orwellian monolith it is today. For me, it would amply confirm my decision to never set foot in a Kingdom Hall or otherwise to have anything to do with Jehovah's Witnesses again. I am not looking for reasons to hate the WTS. Rather I think that knowing how my ignorance of its founders' histories enabled me to be so completely deceived. That can serve as a good warning about involvement in other movements, be they secular or religious, that are not honest about their origins and motives. Thanks for sharing this. I am looking forward to reading a copy for myself.

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