Firstly god was in the hightest mountains, after that he was in the clouds, after that in the stars, now he is out of time and space.
But the truth is he never was outside our minds.
John_Mann
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What the hell happened to "Heaven"
by smiddy init seems to me that this 20th / 21st century has made heaven obsolete .prior to this timeframe the average person would have thought ,somewhere just above the clouds is where heaven would be.then gradually as knowledge and science increased ," heaven" has been further removed from the vicinity of earth.then we had yuri gagarin the russian cosmonaut circling the earth in his space capsule , and he wasnt in heaven .now many people from different countries circle the world in space in the international space ship.they obviously are not in heaven either.. not to be overlooked of course is the moon landings , which was a major acheivement for science and engineering when it was first accomplished.. however their has not been one ,not two or even three moon landings , their has been six with a total of twelve humans who have set foot on the moon.
and they never encounted "heaven " for people who dispute the moon landings , do you honestly think other nations ,some hostile to the americans ,would sit back and not challenge these acheivements ?.
after all these years ?.
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JW Doctors
by elisaporquien inokay i know that there are people who began careers in medicine, law, etc.
then later got into the truth.
i know that pursuing a higher education is not forbidden but a personal choice.
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John_Mann
Yes, I know one born in who is a doctor. He's a closeted gay but still in the Borg.
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Come... take the free gift of the water of life!
by tec inpeace to you all!.
for some time now, i have been arguing and debating and discussing matters of god and the spirit (who is christ).
i have tried to share as he has given me to share whenever he gives me something to share.
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John_Mann
Tec you must seek medical help, now. Cofty even helped to find the origin of your "voice", you simply can't deny it, it's a fact.
Like others have said, everyone have an internal dialogue with our subconscious. It's not a voice external to you, neither is a voice from a magical being. This internal "voice" was evolved to express the meaning of subtle perceptions that our conscious mind can't easily grab. It was vital in a time where the jungle's law ruled. Today it help us to spot more sophisticated predators like conmen.
{yet you believe man came from monkeys.}
You can't believe in science, in science you must understand and then accept, after that you must keep trying to refute the acceptance. The theory of evolution is under this process since 1850's, and until now it have passed all questions.
If you take "monkey" as a primate, man did not came from monkeys, man IS a kind of monkey.
The homo sapiens belong to the order of primates, same order of all monkeys.
So, we accept we are a kind of primate. And we came from a being similar to a bacteria, we call it LUCA.
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3D printing questions.
by DATA-DOG inwhat the heck are they?
should i learn more about them?
do you think there will be career opportunities?
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John_Mann
3D printing are already real, and will be used in near future to build nanobots in our home as easy as we print stuff in a sheet of paper. And the nanobots will cure all the human diseases, including old age and death.
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John_Mann
I think the WT nemesis is the internet.
And they will in great trouble as internet are becoming smart.
There's a lot of information noise on internet, but with the advance of AI we will not have a pain for searching things.
All you have to do is just ask something and you will be fed with precise information.
What you gonna do if the Google machine just show you facts about your religion?
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Why were we so fortunate to escape clutches of the WT?
by jam inwhen i came out i knew of very few ex-jw's.
for years i. question my decision.
was i being selfish, couldn't cut the.
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John_Mann
I'm an atheist myself and the only thing I say there's no god and not "there's no hope". WTF?
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Religious people are less intelligent than atheists, according to analysis of scores of scientific studies stretching back over decades
by besty inhttp://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/religious-people-are-less-intelligent-than-atheists-according-to-analysis-of-scores-of-scientific-studies-stretching-back-over-decades-8758046.html.
study found 'a reliable negative relation between intelligence and religiosity' in 53 out of 63 studies.
a new review of 63 scientific studies stretching back over decades has concluded that religious people are less intelligent than non-believers.. .
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John_Mann
The best definition of intelligence to me is:
- Intentional ability to reorganize existent information to create new knowledge.
The best definition of religion:
- I believe because it's absurd.
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Religious people are less intelligent than atheists, according to analysis of scores of scientific studies stretching back over decades
by besty inhttp://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/religious-people-are-less-intelligent-than-atheists-according-to-analysis-of-scores-of-scientific-studies-stretching-back-over-decades-8758046.html.
study found 'a reliable negative relation between intelligence and religiosity' in 53 out of 63 studies.
a new review of 63 scientific studies stretching back over decades has concluded that religious people are less intelligent than non-believers.. .
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John_Mann
Speaking only about my personal experience:
Religion dumbed down me.
Science makes me feel what religion promised to me (and never gave me).
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More fear and paranoia WT-style! (11/15/13 WT)
by LostGeneration ini usually dismiss the "drinking the kool aid" scenarios that are posted from time to time, but the latest wt has another bit of fearmongering.
the quote from page 20, para 17. elders who are reading this article can draw some useful conclusions from the account we have just considered: (1) the most practical step that we can take to prepare for the coming attack of the assyrian is that of strengthening our faith in god and helping our brothers to do the same.
(2) when the assyrian attacks, the elders must be absolutely convinced that jehovah will deliver us.
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John_Mann
The portuguese version does not appear the last "human" part. Only appears the strategic standpoint. The portuguese translators found the statement too absurd. The house is divided.
(3) Nessa época, receberemos orientaçõe da organização de Jeová que salvarão nossa vida, embora talvez não pareçam práticas do ponto de vista humano. Todos nós devemos estar prontos para obedecer a quaisquer orientações que recebamos, quer pareçam fazer sentido de um ponto de vista estratégico, quer não.
The italian version it's very different (no mention of strategic or human standpoint at all):
Tutti dovremo essere pronti a seguirle, per quanto strane possano sembrarci, perché è solo così che potremo avere salva la vita.
Everyone should be ready to follow them, however strange they may seem, because it is the only way that we can save our life.
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The Bizarre Free Will
by John_Mann intwo years before i left jw world i came to a strange conclusion about the jw cosmology and the free will doctrine.. basically i came to conclusion that satan is right about the universal sovereign issue.
and i came with that just only using jws premises, no outside apostasy.
i just told to my sister what she thought about it, and she said to me: dont tell anyone about this!.
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John_Mann
I just finished a blog post on the topic of Paradox of Adam and Eve, as well as explain how the New World Translation is the ONLY translation that attempts to cover up the mistake:
Very good article Adamah, well written! Clearly Eve was craving for the wisdom contained in the fruit. WT changing substantial portions of bible is beyond dishonesty!
Yup, I agree it's better to 'play in their sandbox', as it were, since you can use their own Bible to show them the illogic and downright mistakes; then the ball is in their court for how to react.
That's the spirit!