When I was growing up I was the "poster boy" who was in assembly dramas and interviews. I was a MS at 21 (married) and I had special privileges with a hearing impaired group...(no it's not me in the masturbation video). Prior the the elder arrangement I was assistant book study conductor and I would get a call to take any of the groups at a time when there was no fixed schedule for the book study...(remember those days when one group would finish their book and review for a few weeks to let other groups catch up). I was also the go-to guy to help pioneers learn a foreign language, help them move, fix their car...you know the drill. I never qualified as an elder...but I gave public talks and was a book study conductor and with time took care of all the different duties for a MS except for hall maintenance. Looking back I now realized that I worked at 2 jobs all my life but was only paid for one...
Posts by NVR2L8
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What Was Your "Status" Within The Organization?
by minimus inwere you a sought after associate?.
were you often invisible?.
did other witnesses view you as "exemplary"?.
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One experience in our old Kingdom Hall that still HAUNTS me
by Newly Enlightened inthe following is a true experience and my daughter gojira101 will verify that it happened to her.
an experience from our family's past that still haunts me and started my questioning whether this is the true organization of god or not.. my daughter, who has always been a good kid, never gave us any problems [she's an adult now] started regular pioneering.
within a few weeks of her starting, she fell on a steep hill and tore open her knee and had to have several stitches.
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Welcome NE and G.
Elders are company man who act according to strict direction from the WTS. When there is no defined procedure they have to use their own "judgement"...and that's when the trouble starts...they have none because in most cases things are all thought out for all JWs.
We had the book study at our house and at the end the study the elder announced that the group would move to another location without warning us ahead of time. My wife started crying and left the room and I went behind her with our children. Some of the friends came upstairs after us and were shocked that we weren't told before nor given a reason. Later that night the elder called and asked if he could come by the following night to explain. I said he could and when he arrived I didn't invite him in...he told us that I didn't join them for service every Saturday morning and that was setting a bad example...he knew my work situation had changed and that I went out during the week when I knew I wasn't going to be able to join them on a Saturday. He didn't apologize for his rudeness and I asked him if he was done...he said yes, so I closed the door in his face. By the way our new group was meeting at his house...
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Does an "all knowing" God have the leisure of choosing not to know something?
by wannabefree inthis concept just always caused a conflict in my mind.
i can remove the idea of predestination with knowing something in advance, why would the watch tower insist that god chooses not to know something?
is that even possible for god?
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Just think of this - you know that your best friend is in grave danger of losing his life and you have the possibility to save him: how do you decide "not to know" and how could you live with yourself for letting him die when you could have saved him? Sickning isn't it? If God is almighty and forknows everything, what good does this do if he doesn't exercise his powers...I am a brain surgeon but I chose to fix cars...what good does that do for those who need brain surgery?
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How Long has it Been since you Last Attended Meetings and What Caused...
by flipper in..... you to stop attending ?
injustices ?
disagree with the teachings ?
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June 13 2012 right after the final talk at the DC. The generation overlap was discussed in the WT study review and in the final talk. I had been researching the truth for quite a while and I had stepped down as a MS a few months before. Seeing the whole audience going along and applauding at the generation "new light" that had no scriptural support or even a valid and clear explanation made me realize that only brainwashed clones could go along with this nonsense. I told my wife that was it...no more meetings. A few months later I attended a funeral talk (WT info-commercial) where everyone attending were jocking and laughing before the start of the talk...Never again.
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Letter about placing TWICE as many magazines!
by 88JM inhahahaha...... .
2013-01-09 (wednesday).
dear brothers:.
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Apostates knew months ago the mags need to be sorted and predicted that some would argue about whom should separate them...what a bunch of morons!
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NOT on JW.ORG ; Arab newspaper's viewpoint on Jehovah's Witnesses and Watchtower.
by Balaamsass in2012: hype and realism opedby: palestine chronicle.
december 28, 2012. by jamal kanj.
the year 2012 was the last in the 21st century to have matching day, month and year (12-12-12.
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12-12-12 was my birthday. ..won't get to see that again and I am 100% sure my prediction will come true!
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Henry Goriup
Harvey McFaddeyn
Doug Jones....names from the past...have not been to a meeting for a couple of years.
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I need prayers about Engine Out Service on my Ferrari.
by james_woods inshould i do it this year - which would be the minimum five year interval, or wait until the maximum ten year interval?.
divine guidance is needed..
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James, I have similar issues with my K1200GT BMW motorcycle...not only do I have to take off the whole fairing to do any mechanical service, but when it comes to even changing the spark plugs I have to take the radiator out...talk about "smart" engineering. On the other end, the thrill of riding this 152 HP machine makes me forget the maintenance assles and high cost.
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No real friendship in JW's NO MATTER WHAT YOU HAVE WENT THRU!!!
by darth frosty inwas talking with blackman the other day and reflecting on our past and we were discussing some trials we went thru together, namely bethel.
our friendship has endured thru days of pioneering together, bethel and now full fledged post jw apostasy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1.
what we were talking about was other friends of ours who went thru and endured some severe bullshit at bethel.
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Designs, I had the same experience when a brother called me from across the world only to ask where was the DC was being held in my area because a sister from his congregation was traveling abroad with her unbelieving husband and she didn't want to miss the convention. I used to work with this brother and since he moved away over ten years ago we hadn't spoken. The conversation was limited to answering his question and he was in a hurry to hang up without sharing any news about his family. Last week I received another call from a brother I haven't spoken with for 15 years...all he was interested in was for me to get him a deal for equipment to be used in a new assenbly hall. I feel so loved by the brotherhood...
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My wife and I went to dinner with a group of "worldly" - NORMAL - people
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my wife and i were invited to dinner by a coworker of hers.
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I remember going out for breakfast with an elder in the restaurent where his disfellowshipped sister worked...you guessed it we were seated in her section...she was very polite and friendly toward us but I could see that he was keeping the conversation to the minimum...no how are you, how are the kids, you are looking well...What a shame to have so little natural affection.