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  Fantastic quote on jwfacts Sparlock article

  by cedars in

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  2. beliefs

  i'm not sure how long it's been up, but jwfacts has written his own article discussing the sparlock debacle - and it's a great piece of work.. here is the link.... http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/blog/sparlock.php.

  in the article he uses a fantastic quote from a 1994 awake!

  magazine which reads as follows.... .

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  Disturbing WT quotes

  by Christ Alone in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i wanted to start a thread about the most disturbing quotes that you all have found in watchtower publications.

  i just came across this one when responding to another thread.

  i'm sure there are many more disturbing quotes out there.

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  All I can say is WOW...
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  Brothers playing sports are so aggressive.

  by Kaiser in

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  2. friends

  this summer i started to play football(soccer) with "wordly" people.

  it s been so nice and relaxing without flashovers.. contrast for playing with witnesses is huge!

  here is couple examples of witnesses games from where i live:.

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  I use to play hockey 3 times a week with the brothers and the games were rough and very aggressive. Some were getting seriously injured resulting from cheap shots. Now I play on local teams and I enjoy the games as never before. I am glad JWs kicked me out of their team for not attending the meetings. One team I play for is made up of professionals and we hang around after the games. Some have become good friends in a very short time. They even enquire when I miss a game...unlike my JW friends who haven't called in over 2 years since I stopped going to the meetings.
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  How Do The Two Masturbation Guys Feel?

  by RayPublisher in

  1. social
  2. humour

  i'm wondering how they feel about their likeness being spammed all over the internet right now?

  i'll bet they didn't sign up for this kind of attention.. it reminds me of an article wired magazine did on youtube a couple years ago about people that had their careers or social life ruined by a viral youtube video.. anyway, it would be interesting to find out who these guys are and what may or may not end up happening with them over this..

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  In my late teens until my mid twenties I did sign language in my congregation and I clearly recall how embarrassing it was to translate talks on sexual matters like masturbation, menstrual cycle, fornication...still I just didn't think about it when it was over. Fortunately I was never recorded or videotaped and I can't imagine how silly I must have looked standing out there in front of the group.
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  New MS - Looking for the "better" job

  by nochoice in

  1. forum
  2. announcements

  long, long time lurker and great fan of the site - first time poster.

  i am not sure if i am truly a lurker since that implies i am apostate-curious.

  in fact, i have been mentally out completely for a long time, but still physically in like many of you.

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  Sound and attendant are great...did it both at the KHall and conventions...accounts and literature before simplification were the worst. Having to be the last to leave and being under the scrutiny of the CO who is trying to find the slightest error...got shit for sending $0.11to WWW instead of the KHall Fund...Damned pennies from kids...
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  12--12--2012

  by bigmac in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  the scuttlebut doing the rounds in the uk is that armageddon is coming on 12--12--2012.. yeah right ( i'm a 1975 survivor ).

  but--it occurred to me--if this rumour went wordwide--like on youtube---the result could be like the sparlock thing--or the conti case--and cause significant embarrassment to our brothers at the top.. .

  bring it on.

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  I was born Dec 12 and may very well celebrate for the first time in over 55 years...friends at work know that I no longer practice my JW religion and they have asked if I ever had a birthday celebration...none I can remember since my parents converted when I was 4. So what will it be? The end of the world or my first birthday party?
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  Loss and Loneliness

  by compound complex in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  tonight's sunset is as spectacular as any i had ever viewed from the kitchen window in my former, beloved home-sweet-home.. a tiny abode it was compared to my current habitation.

  no longer within a mere four wooden walls of plain aspect and diminutive scale, i now am lost in a seeming infinite architectural spread that reaches toward earth's four points, an edifice of four expansive levels that demand i walk, climb, explore every one of thousands of hidden nooks and crannies.

  i am compelled to do this but find no joy in discovery.

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  Cher CoCo,

  Merci de partager des états d'âme avec nous. La vie moderne manque de poésie et de noblesse...mais particulièrement de temps pour apprécier les petits moments qui nous sont chers et qui comptent le plus.
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  Would I be in trouble?

  by Pallbearer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  would i be in trouble?let's suppose that i had never stopped going to the meetings at the kingdom hall, and that i was still actively engaged in the field service.

  if you were to be invited into my home you couldn't help but notice that the entire top (probably 6 foot across) of my entertainment center (a piece of furniture that holds the tv and that has glassed-in shelves on each side) is crowded with religious figurines, most of which came from the local catholic store.. .

  next to that is the nativity scene that has several pieces: the wise men, the "star", the babe jesus, and joseph and mary etc.

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  Brother elder told my brother-in-law to get rid of his model plane collection because mostnof them were war planes...His reasoning was that Jehovah hates weapons of war and that now was his opportunity to show his love for the truth. When I heard this I told him that there is an elder in my congregation that is facinated by WWII hostory and he owns books and DVDs on this subject! It all depends on what you are willing to sacrifice to prove to this elder that you love the truth more than figurines (idols to him).
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  Interesting discussion with some Witnesses at my door today

  by jwfacts in

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  2. experiences

  i moved to a new home about 6 months ago, so am no longer on a do not call list, but have not been contacted by jw's yet.

  i didn't even know which territory i am in.

  i asked again what congregation and he told me.

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  A lesson in the art of reasoning JWFacts!

  I met someone like you years ago, but he was not an ex-JW. Still he and his wife knew how to use their Bible better than any JW I knew. Their reasoning was straight from the scriptures and not from a religious publication. He challenged me to prove any of my belief without a WT publication as he did. One example was about the First and the Last in Revelation...applying to both Jehovah and to Jesus Christ to prove that they are equal in being GOD as my dad and I are equal being MAN. The WT teaches that Jesus is the "first and the last" to be created directly by God since all other things were created through him. The man asked me to prove this using the Bible only. I told him I would do research in our publications but he said he would only accept discussing from the Bible. I told him I would be back - but he rightly predicted that I wouldn't. I couldn't answer any of his questions without the WT. I spoke to an elder and he told me he knew that man and said he was an opostate. Years later when I started waking up and researching the "truth", this call came back into my mind and I plan at one point to return and thank him for starting the alarm bell ring in my mind. Hopefully the witnesses that came to your door will one day remember you as I remembered him.
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  My wife's JW brother/wife and cousin/husband are coming for a visit....

  by NVR2L8 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it's been 2 years since my last meeting and i have been avoiding all contacts with jws to stay under the radar.

  i've had my brother, sister and mom visit from back home 300 miles away and except for my mom i told the others why i stopped believing in the wt's teachings.

  they told me that i should do what makes me happy and that nothing would change between us...we will see.

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  BroMac,

  This BIL was around the truth his whole life but only got involved seriously in the last decade. He has no education and the congregation makes him feel like he is somebody...now he is a fully endoctrinated zombie who even listens to kingdom melodies in his car! My goal was for him to realize he knows nothing about what the "truth" is all about...they quote the publications by heart but they never checked if what they say is true...They believe they study the Bible but they only parrot what is written in the WT. It is like in a restaurant, you may believe you are choosing what you will eat when in fact the one who wrote the menu chose for you!