Regardless if the pedophile is repentant or not, abuse of children is a crime that must be reported to the authorities. Suspicion of abuse must be investigated by the proper authorities and not by a janitor and a window cleaner...Once the situation is public knowledge, the parents can take steps to protect their children against this individual.
Posts by NVR2L8
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21How Long Should A Pedophile Be Shunned By The Church?
by Bubblegum Apotheosis inat what point do we know a pedophile has repented of his sin?
how long should we shun a child sex offender, should the watchtower have thrown out the sex offenders the congregation for five, ten, twenty years?
how should a congregation deal with a sex offender who thinks he has grappled and beaten his urges?.
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Beards
by ThomasK9 ini've been involved with the witnessess since 1976. my ex-wife was a baptised sister who fell in with the wrong crowd and left the fruth when she should have been disfellowshipped.
thats another story.
after returning home in 1980 from working in the u.s. navy, i contacked her parents and in 1982 started studying for ernest.
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The level of control is plain to see when on the buletin board of all congregations there is posted a 4-page pamphlet illustrating how one should dress to visit Bethels... Imagine having to dress in one's best suit to take of tour of warehouses, workshops and printeries...More lately there was an illustration on how not to dress when checking in at a Hotel at the district convention! In the Canadian Bethel all workers regardless of where they work have to go change in their meeting clothes to go have lunch, then back into their work clothes...then back into their meeting clothes for dinner...Only in a cult!
I have been out for 2 years and last November I grew a HUGE mustache for MOvember...my brother who is an elder came to visit me was bothered by it...and when I was in I would have never dared grow facial hair in fear of stumbling my brothers...JWs need to lighten up a bit...it's only a mustache....
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Another case where the pedophile only lost his service privileges...
by NVR2L8 infor those who read french here is the link:.
http://www.courrier-picard.fr/courrier/actualites/info-locale/saint-quentin-chauny/le-tonton-ideal-s-estime-inexcusable .
parents of a young girl trusted that their daughter would be safe at her uncle's home since they were jehovah's witnesses and are known for their high moral standards...the uncle had intercourse 380 times with his 10 year old niece between 2000 and 2002. the girl kept silent for 10 years because she didn't want to cause problems within her family.
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For those who read French here is the link:
Parents of a young girl trusted that their daughter would be safe at her uncle's home since they were Jehovah's witnesses and are known for their high moral standards...the uncle had intercourse 380 times with his 10 year old niece between 2000 and 2002. The girl kept silent for 10 years because she didn't want to cause problems within her family. A Jehovah's witness since the 1970's, the uncle faced a judicial committee and lost his privileges and was no longer allowed to comment at the meetings...
The article doesn't say what the court's decision is yet...
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This was my 'Sign'
by MsGrowingGirl20 inin my previous post i mentioned that i'm staying in the org because i think i got a sign from god...some of you asked a lot of questions about my sign and even shared the society's view on asking for signs which i didn't know.. i didn't disclose exactly what the sign was.. some of you asked me what it was and even stated that i know that you all would pick apart and prove that my sign was just a frivolous excuse to hold on to the org.. maybe you were right.. so i've decided to tell you all exactly what it was---no embellishments or exaggerations.
i would love to hear your opinions since i'm still in a terrible mess.sometimes i'm 100% this is not the truth then other times i'm 60%....i feel if god was giving me a sign i'd be 100% this is the truth you know?.
so i woke up that morning and organized to go meeting.
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4 years ago I was sitting alone in my back yard in the dark of the night. I was looking up at the stars meditating about my relationship with God. At that very moment there was a shooting star and automatically the thought of making a wish came to my mind...right away I wished I won a substantial amount of money. Of course as a JW I immediately felt guilty for having this thought. A few months later I was given a free lotto ticket with the purchase of a meal at McDonalds, ticket that I put in the glove compartment of my car with my gas receipts...a few weeks later I found the ticket and checked it only to find out I had won $50K! Was it a sign from God or was it Satan putting me to the test? At that time I was a MS and any publicity on my winning this money would have me disqualified for my privileges and I was considering forfiting the prize...but there was a loophole. On the back of the tickets the rules are both in English and French (Canada) and with the French rules I was able to claim the price by mail without having an interview or have my name or picture published in the news paper and remain a MS....was it a sign from God or Satan?
During the same time I lost my job after almost 30 years at the same company...I prayed God to help me find a new job and a few days later I found a better job...God had listened to me...but that job had me travel all over the world and I missed many meetings...and started falling away from the faith....was it a trap from Satan?
You see MsGG20 you can see signs into in every event...and they can lead to many conclusions...but these events are random...not from God or Satan...One thing is for sure: facts are facts and if you found out that the WTS lies or falsly prophecied, protected pedophiles then no "imaginary" signs can change that.
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once I was driving a sister home and she was sitting in the front right seat. we crossed an elders wife on the way and the sister attempted to hide because she was afraid to be seen in the car withwithb me. i asked her what's wrong with that? she said that everyone would hear about it and rumors about us would start going around...wtf
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Candace Conti video on YouTube - let's send it viral!
by cedars ini've uploaded a video that discusses the dramatic jury verdict regarding the abuse suffered by candace conti, of which you are all aware.
if you're not yet familiar with the story for any reason, please check out my blog article on the link below.... http://jwsurvey.org/general-information/the-watchtower-punished-society-loses-legal-battle-over-child-abuse-case.
john hoyle suggested i get a youtube video out fairly quickly so that we can spread the message more effectively online.
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MAGISTRAL...!
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Watchtower's April 9 BOE Confidentiality Letter - Child Abuse - Did Jane Doe lawsuit play a major part?
by SweetBabyCheezits ini'd bet my left.... pinky toe that the wt's monster 4/9 confidentiality letter was put out as a direct result of the jane doe/candace vs wt case as they were preparing to go to trial.
there had already been a year of legal proceedings - surely the wt knew the shit was about to hit the fan.. thanks goes to atlantis for posting the boe letters originally as pdfs.
the person that a restraining order is a personal legal matter that does not involve the congregation.. thereafter, the elders should call the legal department immediately for direction..
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Very Curious, what kind of feedback are you getting from ACTIVE Jehovah's Witnesses on Candace's California Court Victory ?
by Balaamsass ini am stunned by candace's huge court victory.
it is overdue.
i have been reading comments on jvn, huffington, san jose mercury, nbc, and other sources.
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I told my (unbaptized) son and he had no reaction...it was like he wasn't hearing it. I guess like most JWs all negative news against the WT are lies made up by apostates...reported by media controlled by Satan...
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How does a congregation handle being found guilty in a lawsuit?
by OnTheWayOut inas in the current oakland, california case, since the congregation must vote on expenditures and pay on such rulings, is there any announcement concerning the specific case and rulings?
are the elders removed to make it look like it was their blunder.
any real info along with wild speculations would be welcome..
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How can one continue as an elder after having kept quiet while a sexual predator was roaming freely in his congregation...Of course he will get the WTS support for being a company man...but how can you look at anyone in the eye and not feel shame. It would be like knowing that your best friend brings his children to a daycare centre run by a pedophile...but you don't say anything in fear that the pedophile may sue you for lost business...Then after his kids have been molested, your friend finds out you knew all along but kept quiet...wtf
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Elders Can Hide their Own Sins from the Past-Yet Continue as Elders? Read
by flipper ini was shocked ( though i probably shouldn't have been ) when reading the new elders manual concerning whether elders have to confess up about former sins from a few years earlier.
notice this on pg.
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Isn't the Organized book only given to those who are dedicated or close to dedication? If I remember well this book contains the 100 questions you need to review before baptism...You get your own printed copy and there is a space to write your name and date of dedication...This may explain why this book isn't on the CD...