I feel the same way! I left back in October....I have kept a longtime worldly friend through thick and thin of me being in the cult. Since moving to Mexico HE now has found Jesus...he talks about the bible nonstop that I can´t bear to talk to him anymore. It´s so sickening! He put up with me all those years but I cannot do by him.
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We Give/Gave Up So Much Over This Thing
by OnTheWayOut ini think of a reporter that breaks a huge story about some corruption in the government who won't reveal his source of information.
the government uses anti-terrorist laws against that reporter to try to force him to speak.
the laws are designed to protect the people and are used in a warped way to protect the government and allow it to hide it's corruption.
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Anyone from Canada? Thinking of emigrating there...
by teel intitle almost says it all.
i'm sure there are some canadians here, so please voice your oppinion - am i out of my mind to move there, or is it the best decision of my life?
- of course the answer is somewhere in between, but feel free to be extreme if you want to .
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Is Bret Hart really a Canadian legend up there?
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State your "epiphany moment " for leaving the WT
by caliber ini have found some powerful reinforcements when people have stated their " epiphany moment "... please share some.. my turning pointing began when i was badly hurt by a person i had always viewed as a literal brother.
i realized that if his.
love was conditional.... if it was the case with him , then how about those i had less affection for and trust in ?.
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It was in October....I skipped the convention because I had to work. Halloween is our biggest night. I got so much flak over that. Then the next meeting the WT was about doing more...I was already a regular pioneer and the article made me feel as I was shit.
Today I just erased all witnesses from my FB page. Felt pretty good.
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They can´t DF via email!
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Rebecca Black- Worst song ever?
by keyser soze inhas anyone seen the youtube video of this song?
it's being hailed by many people as the worst song ever.
i tried to watch it, out of curiosity, but i had to shut it off less than a minute into it.
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I don´t think it´s bad at all. It is just like Christina or Brittany crap songs. Girls that think they can sing etc.
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Once the Spell is Broken - Leave Mind Control Behind .............
by flipper in.
..... you may find what you were looking for right from the start.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7pq1mg5xn4 .
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I just left this past November. I am still sorting things out pretending to be a JW on FB....Pretending to everyone back home.
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Apostate Psychology
by Spade init's only fair that the psychology of apostates be assessed as they're intent on analyzing the psychology of jehovah's witnesses.
http://www.freeminds.org/psychology/mind-control/mind-control-or-brainwashing.html .
understanding mind control among jehovah's witnesses.
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It's not a fearful thing according to WT doctrine. Jehovah doesn't burn people in hell right? So what is left? Death. The WORST thing that can happen to us is death. Guess what? Liz Taylor died today and probably millions more. Did they fall into the hands of the living God, or did they just die?
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Can someone explain to me why it's good for the U.S. economy to collapse?
by Botzwana ini don't get it.
they are printing money knowing it will hurt the economy.
i don't get the benefit of a destroyed america..
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what was the worst meeting you ever attended ?
by man in black inhere's mine :.
back in the early 90's we went to the sunday talk and wt study.. lo and behold, a friend from the 70's who was df'ed ( he had just been reinstated) was there along with his parents.
i had no idea that they would have been there.. one of my kids was getting sick, so my wife and i were up-down the entire meeting walking him around.
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The worst one? My last one.
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Witness conversation stoppers...
by Botzwana inthis was forwarded to me by a witness....what are some witness conversation stoppers though?.
field ministry conversation stoppers.
***the householder said, "only those who have accepted jesus in their lives will be saved.
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This was forwarded to me by a witness....What are some WITNESS conversation stoppers though?
Field Ministry Conversation Stoppers
***The householder said, "Only those who have accepted Jesus in their lives will be saved." The brother responded with, "We certainly agree with that, but where does that leave Abraham, Moses, Job, King David and all the others in the Old Testament who never knew of Jesus?"
***A brother was talking with a householder about being saved. The householder said, 'I have accepted Jesus in my life, recognize that he died for my sins and I'm now saved.' The brother responded with 'Well, if that is the case, shouldn't the Bible be one paragraph long? What is the rest of it for? That's why we go door to door - to offer people Bible studies to learn about all the requirements from God. '
*** This is from a brother in the Spanish Dover congregation in New Jersey --- The householder usually will ask, "What religion are you?" In most cases we would answer, "Jehovah's Witnesses," and the conversation would normally end there with the words: "Sorry not interested!" But, reply in this manner: "Jehovah's Witness, and you?" This mandates a reply from the householder, thus allowing us to continue the conversation.
*** This came from a Regular Pioneer sister in the North congregation in Anchorage, Alaska --- I would like to relate one that our District Overseer/Branch Overseer is known for: When the householder says, "I'm not interested" at the beginning of the conversation, he sometimes (when the time is right) replies: "I don't blame you, I haven't said anything interesting yet."
*** This came from a Sister in the Franklin, Illinois congregation --- One circuit overseer suggests leaving a question with the householder whether or not they are too interested in listening to us: We were asking our neighbor's opinion of this, "If Jesus was to return to the earth, what church would he attend?"' It is amazing how many don't automatically say their own. I have used it occasionally and it has allowed for continued conversations.
*** This is said to be a modified statement of Brother Russell's: There are over 10,000 religions in the world. If God set these up for us to learn to worship Him properly, learn to love one another, and have useful, peaceful lives, we can only arrive at one of two conclusions: Either he failed miserably, or he didn't set them up in the first place and something else is behind them. Do you agree?
*** In a discussion with a householder, the householder made the statement: 'The King James Bible is the only true Bible from God.' The Brother said, 'Oh, is that the one the apostles used? Or, did the apostles have the wrong Bible?'
*** This is from a Circuit Overseer in pioneer school: The householder stated that he believed in the Trinity. The Circuit Overseer then said, 'Oh, then you have the latest information on it?' The man asked what that was, and the Circuit Overseer brought out the Trinity brochure!
*** This is from a Circuit Overseer: When talking with someone who believes in the Trinity, they seem to focus on John 1:1 for some reason. This Circuit Overseer says to them, "I'll tell you what, You take your best Scripture for the Trinity and throw it out and I'll take my best Scripture against it and throw it out, and then let's talk about the Trinity from the Scriptures." Great idea!
*** From a brother in the Dominican Republic: Trinitarians usually start off with some "proof texts" and then launch into some Greek words they know. I have learned now instead of trying to "duke it out" with them, I bypass all of that by saying, "Let's suppose you are right, the Trinity does exist and we are wrong, then please show me from the Bible what I should do to find the right religion." This usually stops them cold, as they have never thought about guiding someone to the truth, only about stopping JW's on the Trinity.
*** This is from a brother in the Cortez congregation in Connecticut --- A brother was talking with a householder about the immortality of the soul. The brother turned to Genesis 2:17 and read it to the householder and said, 'Here God states that you will positively die.' Then he turned to Genesis 3:4 and read it to the householder and said, 'Here Satan said you will positively not die. Which do you choose to believe?'Witness comes to door...Householder says so...Tell me about 1975...
Can you guys think of more?