I haven't ever physically visited this church, but have been lately watching quite a few of Mark Driscoll's sermons on the church website. He can be a very persuasive and emotional pastor and uses the Bible frequently. If possible, it's basically a mix of an old-school Calvinist/Reformation (Driscoll even named his kids after Calvin and friends) church with a liberal 'relaxed/hip' bent.
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Mars hill church
by stuckinamovement inthis is interesting reading.
http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/church-or-cult/content?oid=12172001.
http://www.slate.com/articles/life/faithbased/2012/02/mars_hill_pastor_mark_driscoll_faces_backlash_over_church_discipline_case_.html.
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You would return to Jehovah's Witnesses if...
by Shawn10538 insomeone else suggested this so i just figured, ok let's do it.. 1. all present jws died and i became the sole leader of the entire religion.
2. then i would dissolve the religion and burn every last memory of it ever existing.
3. all books would be burned, all buildings destroyed.
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Possibly if they actually became Christian, acknowledge the deity of Christ and would bend their knees to Him ala Phillipians 2:9-11. A massive conversion and restructuring similar to Worldwide Church of God (?) would be required. Perhaps God would then bless them with Holy Spirit, and you would actually feel his presence if you went to a meeting.
If this actually occured, the vast 'preaching/publishing' network they have established could actually begin to be used by God to declare the real Bible's message.
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striking similarity to JW
by inbetween inever heard of this church ?.
example: http://rcg.org/articles/abcc.html.
very similar reasoning to jw,...
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lol james_woods, I wasn't aware of that..
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Seriously, I wonder if this site is org approved: bethelandcitytours.com
by misguided ini can't seem to find the editing button to put in a hyperlink:.
they also put up a video on you tube on feb 12, 2012:.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usbmptrqawq&feature=player_embedded.
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Traditionally, the WTS has run these types of Bethel tours and international conventions through a separate travel company, at least in Canada. For Canada, this company was Exotic (Exotik?) Tours based out of Montreal. This was the only company authorized at the time to provide international convention trips. I can't remember which company provided the Bethel tours, but it certainly wasn't these guys, as it was so long ago that I visited.
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A New Dust Bowl For The Midwest?
by TOTH inwow, i was reading this article and wondered if anyone else heard about this.
i have only found some small talk about it in my search and would like some credible sources to verify if this is a real concern.... http://www.mrconservative.com/2012/02/2324-dust-bowl-in-the-heartland/.
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Interesting article; I knew of this general problem, but this article really brings it home how dire it's about to become. Number #13 really blew me away : "Right now, the United States uses approximately 148 trillion gallons of fresh water a year, and there is no way that is sustainable in the long run." That number is so huge, you can't even think about, it's so beyond comprehension.
In fact, just the other day I read about water authorities in Texas not releasing dam water to rice farmers because of shortages. I didn't even know they grew rice in Texas - who thought THAT was a good idea?
I would expect a water commodity market to open up in the US maybe next year or the year after. Water is the new oil.
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JW Match getting kinda worldly ?
by ShirleyW inbelow is from an email jw match sent me to get more involved on their site.
taking into account how the borg feels about dating (do they still want you to be chaperoned?
) i was kinda taken aback to see this.
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What the heck is a 'glad rag'? Sounds foreign..
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I have other sheep which are not of this fold
by Wayward Son injohn 10:16 - and i have other sheep, which are not of this fold; those also i must bring, and they will listen to my voice, and they will become one flock, one shepherd.. setting: jesus was talking to a blind man he had recently cured and the pharisees were listening in.
it sounds like he had a larger audience that likely included his apostles.so, who is "this fold" he was referring to and who are the "other sheep"?according to wts doctrine, the heavenly calling (covenant) had not been instituted yet.
we don't hear about that until the last supper.
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Ephesians 2:11-18 is the best Biblical reference I know of that shows the 2 groups, Gentiles and Jews, merging and becoming one.
From the NWT:
"Therefore keep bearing in mind that formerly YOU were people of the nations as to flesh; “uncircumcision” YOU were called by that which is called “circumcision” made in the flesh with hands— 12 that YOU were at that particular time without Christ, alienated from the state of Israel and strangers to the covenants of the promise, and YOU had no hope and were without God in the world. 13 But now in union with Christ Jesus YOU who were once far off have come to be near by the blood of the Christ. 14 For he is our peace, he who made the two parties one and destroyed the wall in between that fenced them off. 15 By means of his flesh he abolished the enmity, the Law of commandments consisting in decrees, that he might create the two peoples in union with himself into one new man and make peace; 16 and that he might fully reconcile both peoples in one body to God through the torture stake, because he had killed off the enmity by means of himself. 17 And he came and declared the good news of peace to YOU, the ones far off, and peace to those near, 18 because through him we, both peoples, have the approach to the Father by one spirit."
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Scum in Britain
by varian in...just unbelievable.
even the lefties are having trouble to find nice words for them...hahaha!.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nhzwdjhw-ae#!.
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Look up the definitions of 'race.' Literally, any class of objects or people or anything can be defined as a 'race.' A set of paper clips with one end twisted up can be called a race of bent paperclips.
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they wouldn't know what God's will was if it came up and bit them in the ass.
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More "Elders" Doubt They Are Appointed By The "Holy Spirit"!
by Bubblegum Apotheosis inthe study edition of the watchtower says the elders are appointed by jehovah's holy spirit.
it's confounding the society does not realize that more and more elders, do not accept this claim.
i have racked my brain, wondering how many brothers and sisters actually believe this, fall hook and sinker.
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DJ Egg's back?? time to break out the BUBBLY!