Posts by snakeface

I happen to be a musician, studied Music Compostion and Theory in college (pre-Witness of course), played more than 10 instruments, composed music, and had 5 years of Voice training to become a singer. So I "know" music. When I got this new songbook, I could tell that the entire collection had to have been composed by one person or a very small group of persons working together. Also I could tell the music was very chant-like; it was not beautiful "art" that evoked feelings and emotions, but rather, it was empty and hypnotic chanting. Sort of like when military troops march, they have chants that keep them focused on their marching. One person shouts out a line of the chant, then the entire squadron repeats it. We did it in the Air Force. It was kind of fun, actually. We'd make up chants. Some were a little humorous. You might be familiar with this one:

We're in the Army now.

We're not behind the plow.

We never get rich, we never can quit.

We're in the Army now.

So this is how I perceive the new songs. Chants to constantly reindoctrine the rank and file witnesses.

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What is your standing in a congregation if you're a man of 40 and never married?

by dgp in

on a different thread (http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/members/private/211210/3/my-life-well-the-first-part-at-least.

someone commented that.

as a sister especially you are nothing when not attached to you husband.. this made me curious.

snakeface

It could be that he has a "worldy" girlfriend.

I remember being single and over 40 and having sisters calling me, showing up at my door at all hours....some in the congregation wold ask why I am not married. I would reply that I don't want to be married; I prefer to shack up, but then I wouldn't be allowed to give pubilc talks.

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I have just left my parents home and the JW's about six months ago and have found it hard to get over.

by StephanieH in

i finally desided to leave the witnesses therefore my family and basicly everyone and everything i had ever known.

i was 19 about to be 20 and i had just finished my first semester at a community college.

i was shocked at the respons of my father and others about me attending college at first they were ok but behind my back they were pretty much betting on my failier.

snakeface

Welcome to the group, Stephanie. You are a brave, strong woman. I commend you. You are a fighter, a survivor. You took that first step of breaking away from toxic association (family, organization etc) and no longer have to squeeze yourself into their mould. You no longer need their permission/approval/forgiveness for being you.

Now you can be you.

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"We missed you SO much at the meeting...."

by Duncan in

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snakeface

When I was a MS I used to mention that from the platform. I'd tell the congregation to look around, take note of who is missing, and call them yourselves to tell them you miss them. Don't leave it up to the elders and MS, because if we go on a shepherding call and tell them they are missed, they will reply, "Then how come no one calls me, no one visits me..." They know the elders and MS do it because it's part of their responsibilities. But when you call or visit, they'll know it's because you "want to" (referencing Jesus' words "I want to").

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What do you think about the "United Church of God"?

by tia.dalma in

here is a link to their main site.

http://www.ucg.org/.

i've read a little about them and they do not believe in trinity, and have similar believes as jehovah's witnesses.. they also try to keep all ten commandments, in addition to that.. i did not research all their doctrines, but a lot of them look familiar to me.. what do you think?.

snakeface

They teach that masturbation is a sin.

They are pretty much a different version of the JW's, except that the Church of God practices tithing, and they celebrate certain festivals. They don't go door-to-door though, but instead they use the internet and other means for spreading their message.

Interestingly, I looked on their website for local congregations, and found only phone numbers, not addresses. Where do they meet? Sounds secretive to me.

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"Overlapping generation" explanation - TRANSCRIBED EXTRACT from Friday's talk (DC 2011-12)

by AnnOMaly in

i thought this would be easier to examine if written down:.

god's kingdom will soon come.

so we know that god's kingdom will soon come.. .

snakeface

So now the "generation" consists of Group 1 and Group 2".

At next year's convention, the new light will be that there is a Group 3, and for 2013's convention there will be Group 4...Group 5...maybe there will be 144,000 "groups" of groups of discerners, basking in the light, pawing the ground like fattened calves.....

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So..... are you apostates enjoying your mansions and private jets?

by Mr. Falcon in

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a super-zealous elder once told me in a very grave tone, "you know, mr. falcon, when someone becomes an apostate and leaves god's organization, they usually do very well physically and materially.

" hence the reason he claims that they feel "vindicated".

now i do also remember hearing such statements in the past from other witnesses.

snakeface

Think of how much $ we used to spend each year for conventions and assemblies. Buying a vehicle suitable for field service rather than what we preferred to own. Contributions. Gas and other expenses for field service. Clothing for meetings, including the dry cleaning bills.

Now we no longer have those expenses. So, "evidently" this "generation" that used to spend their "unrighteous riches" on field service and meetings is now enjoying their "symbolic" mansions and "spiritual" private jets which are being progressively revealed to those of the apostate class who have exercised "discernment" and have "quit touching" the WT.

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Harold Camping: I meant October 21 -- May 21 was SPIRITUAL judgement day

by FatFreek 2005 in

ya'll need to cut harold camping some slack on his apparent failure at his may 21 prediction.

to use a patent watchtower alibi, "he never used the special words, "jehovah said".

besides, harold obviously had some new light since and has altered his prediction by adding 5 months to the original.. harold camping "... said that instead of the biblical rapture in which believers were expected to ascend into heaven, a spiritual judgement day occurred on may 21 instead.