Posts by factfinder

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What new books are released this year?

by EndofMysteries in

a relative called and said another relative called them and mentioned some book about the life of rutherford and russell.

is this correct?

i wouldn't be surprised if they were publishing more 'white washed' information to try to diffuse the facts people are learning when doing real research.

factfinder

I like it. I'm up to chapter 7. It is not meant to replace the Proclaimers book and it refers the reader back to that book several times.

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International Convention East Rutherford, NJ 2014

by wannabefree in

listen ... obey ... and be blessed!

has this become the official cult watchtower theme song?.

here is a video making the rounds on facebook.

New DVD - Has anyone ripped a leaked copy yet?

by outinthemeadows in

i was going to say "i could do with a leak" but that would sound wrong.

so i'll rephrase, has anyone got a leaked copy of the new dvd released at the district sorry regional convention this year?.

OK The New Releases Are Out: But no one has described them.

by scotoma in

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apparently jwd has lost all their moles.. hasn't anyone even been to a convention?.

usually we know in advance..

factfinder

I recieved some literature today including the new book "God's Kingdom Rules!"

A nice surprise from a sister who attended the IC this weekend- attendence was over 140,000! This was at MetLife Stadium in East Rutherford, NJ! She said it was fantastic & she was very glad she went.

The book looks very well designed. I plan to start reading it today.

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'The Compound' is coming on nicely...

by snare&racket in

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warwick precursory site work on the watchtower bible and tract society's 45-acre jehovahs witnesses world headquarters project in sterling forest has been completed, meaning construction of the planned eight-building complex on long meadow road along the warwick-tuxedo town line is poised to begin in earnest.. the warwick town board on june 12 agreed to reduce watchtower's town-mandated $33.103 million performance bond by a third to signify the completion of approximately one-third of the project.. .

bond reduction totals $11.114 million.

watchtower bible and tract society of new york associate general counsel richard moake and spokesman david c. day, a newfoundland attorney who has represented jehovah witness clients in significant canadian religious freedom rulings, said the $11.114 million bond reduction means preliminary site work has been completed and inspected.. .

factfinder

DJS-

I agree-it is what the witnesses need, but this gb is the opposite and will stay that way.

If any change can come, it would take a new gb to replace this one.

And yes , money & more money is all they care about.

We see this in the continuous reductions in the printing budget:

no more mail subscriptions, g only once a month, study w not distributed to public, public w & g reduced to 16 pages, most books produced as softcovers, more emphasis on tracts and brochures offered door to door, no books used in fs campagns except Teach book.

More emphasis on jw.org pdfs rather than getting printed copies, having congs print out forms or get them from Staples? or was it Cost Cutters?

I imagine the km will also be printed by the local cong off of the web site eventually and tracts too.

Transferring Brooklyn's printing & binding operations to Wallkill, followed 6 years later by transferring Wallkill's magazine operations to Canada.

Consoladating from 42 printing branches in 1992 to 14 today.

Selling presses and running others on 2 shifts, closing branches-

all to save money. What do they do with the money?

They are benefiting from it that is for sure. It is all about the money.

A new kinder, more open, less judgemental, sincere and caring, honest gb are needed. But how do you get one?

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New DVD - Has anyone ripped a leaked copy yet?

by outinthemeadows in

i was going to say "i could do with a leak" but that would sound wrong.

so i'll rephrase, has anyone got a leaked copy of the new dvd released at the district sorry regional convention this year?.

factfinder

marked

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Conventions

by free2beme in

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as the conventions are in full swing, and my relatives who are still in make a point to tell me what their vacation will include.

i am reminded of a couple of things about conventions i do not normally think about.. one, the people who would protest the conventions.

some with bags on their head, others just holding signs.

factfinder

I remember sometimes seeing protesters outside the gates at Vet Stadium in Philly. I had no inclination to listen to them at all. They would put flyers on the cars windsheilds in the parking lot. I remember one time going around, removing them and tearing them up, throwing them out.

I think the protesters made a bad impression which caused witnesses NOT to listen to them.

Apognophos- I'm interested in seeing that new book.

I wonder if my jw brother and sister in law are bothered in anyway that armageddon still has not come and the "short while" has been 100 years now. Of course, if they had doubts they would never tell me.

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'The Compound' is coming on nicely...

by snare&racket in

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friends

warwick precursory site work on the watchtower bible and tract society's 45-acre jehovahs witnesses world headquarters project in sterling forest has been completed, meaning construction of the planned eight-building complex on long meadow road along the warwick-tuxedo town line is poised to begin in earnest.. the warwick town board on june 12 agreed to reduce watchtower's town-mandated $33.103 million performance bond by a third to signify the completion of approximately one-third of the project.. .

bond reduction totals $11.114 million.

watchtower bible and tract society of new york associate general counsel richard moake and spokesman david c. day, a newfoundland attorney who has represented jehovah witness clients in significant canadian religious freedom rulings, said the $11.114 million bond reduction means preliminary site work has been completed and inspected.. .

factfinder

Apognophos-

you bring up good points.

I'd like to add that this new gb wants to be in a more secluded area. Previously, the wts wanted the public to see all the bldgs. and their signs and millions did regularly. The witnesses had a huge presence in Brooklyn, at one time owning 42 properties! They wanted everything open to the public.

gb 2,.0 wants secrecy. As Billy brought out, except for those living in the Warwick area, nobody will even know they are there in their private, hidden headquarters by the lake in the woods! People will drive by on the highway and won't be able to see the bldgs, won't know it is there.

But that is what this gb wants-secrecy and privicy, in a nice, secluded, peaceful compound, away from the worldy people and noise of the city.

DJS- I agree, this gb are paranoid and afraid. Won't Jehovah protect them? I guess they don't believe he will.

And of course, the money-bringing in over 1 billion dollars selling the Brooklyn buildings and spending only around $12.5 million to build the new, more comfortable, smaller headquarters.

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When I decided to no longer turn in time...

by SG098 in

being my 1st post i figured i should relate a personal experience.

a few months ago i decided to stop reporting time.

i'm mentally out of this cult now but still trapped because of family.

factfinder

Welcome!

I listened to the whole video, unfortunatly I could not hear the elders comment on porn because those sisters were too loud!

Their repeated mention of the gb shows me how much this religion has changed in the nearly 9 years since I gave up going to meetings.

This new gb are worshipped, and that is what they want.

I never minded handing in my fs report, but your recording shows the org demands you follow its rules even when it goes beyond what the bible says.

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I used to think that 7 million JWs was a large number

by dogon in

then i saw a stat that made me think differently.

there are 7 million practicing voodoo religion world wide.

about the same as jws, and the big thing is that they do not at all go out and try to convert people at all, not one pamphlet not one tract no door to door calls, phone calls nothing nada.

factfinder

There are just under 8 million witnesses but no doubt there will be a new peak in August.

There were 2 million when I began studying, I wondered if it would ever reach 3 million!