Posts by Ding

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How exactly did Jesus choose the organization in 1919?

by Gman2001 in

did he appear to someone?.

Ding

Great question.

It's similar to the questions:

1. If the faithful and discreet slave is really Jehovah's channel of communication in these last days, exactly how does he communicate with THEM?

2. If the faithful and discreet slave is really Jehovah's channel of communication (in a way that no other religious organization is), why have they gotten so many things wrong that needed to be changed?

3. If the revelations the faithful and discreet slave receive from Jehovah are progressive truths (getting brighter and brighter), wouldn't they start out as true but incomplete rather than as totally false?

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Is JW.org going Broke?

by Vanderhoven7 in

https://youtu.be/e6gh6w7v03y.

Ding

Remember how the WT used to boast that they don't have to ask for funds because the brothers cheerfully and willingly contribute?

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Jeffrey Jackson: Too much excitement got in the way for the ''false dates''

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

annual meeting 2019—talks and 2020 year textthe governing body members are nothing but a bunch of weasels.

here is a talk by jeffrey jackson on how the governing body ''the slave class'' has remained spiritually awake over 100 years and alerted its members.. he looks back on the ''faithful and discreet slaves'' false dates over the 100 years: '' but at times, we look back over 100 years, and there were times they got excited about a certain year or time, and the end didn't come at that time.''.

he makes the comparison between the ''slave class ( who disappointed others when the end didn't come ) to a barking watchdog ( who in his enthusiasm barks at nothing in the middle of the night and wakes up the owner).

Ding

Adopting the "GB are just humble brothers whose only fault is their excessive zeal and enthusiasm" defense...

Never mind how many lives they ruin in the process.

Never mind how they require all JWs to believe everything they say or get DFd because of their independent thinking.

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Luke 23:43 the NWT

by Ade in

luke 23:43 - and jesus said to him, "positively i say to you, today you will be with me in paradise.

nwt places comma here , giving a totally different meaning to the verse.

now the average jw uses this to back their doctrine and it seems in itself virtually impossible to reason with them on it.

Ding

The WT doesn't believe that man will actually be with Jesus in paradise.

They teach that he will be on earth and that Jesus will always be in heaven.

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[GOOD NEWS] My PIMI wife became PIMQ!

by psyco in

after a few years, unexpectedly, my pimi wife became pimq.. today she even asked me a question that i found very interesting:.

if god has been anointing women to be part of the kings and priests over humankind, why cannot they currently rule and guide 8 million people being part of the governing body (acquiring experience in that role as well)?.

Ding

You can tell that it's a fiction.

The GB neither know nor care who the "anointed remnant" are.

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Only baptised JWs will make it?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

i think it was a john cedars video or someone else’s where the point was brought up that only baptised jws will be saved?

then one talk about kids of baptised jws hope they will make it but even them don’t know.

most jws probably think that some good people who are not baptised may make it through, but this is not official teaching?.

Ding

If the WT said that today people who just didn't know enough would make it, then it would be better to keep them ignorant by not going to their doors.

Moreover, JWs would be in a worse position than a completely ignorant person next door because JWs might prove unworthy and not make it.

Can't have any of that.

So the WT must have it that only JWs will make it.

That not only makes it essential to be a JW, but it heightens the urgency for JWs to witness to as many people as possible so as not to incur bloodguilt.

Fear! Guilt!

Do more! Do more!! Do more!!!

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God and Unicorns

by Sea Breeze in

atheist scientists now agree that "elasmotherium sibiricu" lived with humans.

all they had to do was read their bible to know that.

job 39:9 “will the unicorn be willing to serve thee, or abide by thy crib?”.

Ding

Modern translations render it "wild ox" rather than "unicorn."

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R & F JW's ARE agents of the org....

by BoogerMan in

....despite the cult's denials.. w51 6/15 p. 378 par.

23 the spirit, the organization, and the word - his theocratic organization recognizes your authority from his word, the bible.

so it uses you as one of its representatives in the field and it co-operates with you, supplies your needs, and renders you assistance..

Ding

The GB wants to micromanage JWs' lives but escape responsibility for anything they do.

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How did you pass the time when the Kingdom Hall meetings became boring and repetitive/

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

another boring and repetitive ''watchtower study.

'' all the articles are about the ''faithful and discreet slave.''.

for whatever reason, you tolerate this for years.

Ding

When weren't the meetings boring and repetitive?

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How Do You Know You Are In The Wrong Religion?

by Vanderhoven7 in

i believe this list which many of us worked on needs to see the light of day again...and added to if possible.. you know you are in the wrong religion:1. when the all important question is not: "do you believe in the lord jesus christ?"....but....

"do you believe in the "faithful and discreet slave" appointed in brooklyn in 1919?"2.

when you will be refused baptism if: a. you don't believe jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bc (whereas all non-jw scholars, all encyclopedias and all history books say this event took place in 587 bc.)b.

Ding

After I read CoC, I realized that the Watchtower organization was far more flawed than I had thought.