Posts by ABibleStudent

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introduction

by monis in

i am 39 years old.

i converted to the jws when i was in middle school due to a witness in school and my family having issues at that time.

i found instant friends and family at the kh.

Welcome monis , If you haven't read Steve Hassan's books (i.e., "Combatting Cult Mind Control", "Releasing the Bonds: Empowering People to Think for Themselves", and (his latest book) "Freedom of Mind: Helping Loved Ones Leave Controlling People, Cults and Beliefs"0, visiting his website www.freedomofmind.com, or watching his FREE videos on his website, do it now to help your husband to critically think for himself and not get drawn back to the WTBTS because of WTBTS induced phobias. The WTBTS's BITE control techniques are very powerful. If you do not have the time now, at least watch the following videos by Steve Hassan: Strategic Interactive Approach explained 2003 (1:23:23) and Roberto di Stefano, Ex Jehovah's Witness Elder interview - July 2013 (18:22).

If you do not feel comfortable planting seeds of doubts in your husband, at least plan fun outings with your husband so that he can meet more non-JWs who he shares common interests and encourage your children to make friends with non-JWs with parents who you share common interests.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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But they are only 8 imperfect men!!!

by notsurewheretogo in

i'm fed up of my still-in wife using this excuse that they can utter wrong beliefs and doctrines.. .

the fact that there are imperfect humans involved in the organisation is very much irrelevant.. .

we all accept, including jdubs, that these men are just men who may think and say wrong things like the rest of us as they go about their own lives.

ABibleStudent

Hi notsurewheretogo, I hope that you keep on venting on JWN so that your wife does start to think that you do not believe in the WTBTS.

Have you thought of asking your wife in a round-about-way what she would do if she was a member of th GB? How would your wife respond to you saying that a non-JW asked you why follow 8 imperfect men when you are imperfect and can make equally good and bad decisions since God gave you the Holy Spirit after Christ's resurrection? Isn't she just as imperfect as the GB members?

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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Saludos!!! Desde una asamblea de circuito....

by juanvazquez88 in

from monterrey, mexico..... status: ready to vomit in any moment, i cant listen another man saying: "were are imperfec, but were best that the outsiders".

.

ABibleStudent

Hi juanvazquez88, ILoveTTATT, and monis, If you are native Spanish speakers and have some spare time, have you thought of suggesting to Simon about experimenting with adding a Spanish language forum to JWN? How about Personal Experiences, WTBTS doctrines, and WTBTS scandals & coverups?

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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Saludos!!! Desde una asamblea de circuito....

by juanvazquez88 in

from monterrey, mexico..... status: ready to vomit in any moment, i cant listen another man saying: "were are imperfec, but were best that the outsiders".

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ABibleStudent

Hi juanvazquez88, Keep on venting/posting from the circuit assembly to stay sane. Or, go outside and enjoy the sunshine!!

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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Found another JWN-like forum in my language!

by ohnightdivine in

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friends

just a few minutes ago i found out another ex-jw/jw forum online in my native language.. i am soooo happy because i thought there was very little hope of ttatt reaching these people.

as you can see, very few speak english fluently in my country.. but, yay!

the forum is so alive and up-to-date, just like jwn, and i even saw copies of the menlo park congregation docs.. there is still hope after all.. i'd be glad to see even just one member of my congregation wake up to ttatt..

ABibleStudent

Hi ohnightdivine, What is your native language?

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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So I get a knock on the door...

by wearewatchingyouman in

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a few minutes ago.

it's a buddy of mine from my old hall.

i occassionally study with him when i can tell he's feeling guilty about hanging out with me, but it's been months since i've seen him.

ABibleStudent

Hi wearewatchingyouman, Enjoy golfing with your friend. Life is too short to talk about the WTBTS.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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How can i continue my fade vs the rubber band theorem that pulls my wife in

by DS211 in

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friends

im at a crossroads my friends.

im beginning to feel that my oppurtunities to get my wife out are waning.

weve misssed many meetings she still smokes a cig a day.

ABibleStudent

You can buy "Freedom of Mind: Helping Loved Ones Leave Controlling People, Cults and Beliefs" from Amazon as a Kindle book (i.e., electronic file like a pdf). you can use the following links to download software to an Android phone/tablet and to a Pc to read Kindle books from Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html?docId=165849822 or http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html?docId=1000426311.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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Shunning: How would You Overcome it?

by ABibleStudent in

after reading the thread soon to be 18 and quit speaking to her mother- suggestions?, i started thinking of how to use the wtbts's doctrine to help jws to see what is the real purpose of shunning for the wtbts.

hopefully, some good ideas will be posted to this thread and may help exjws and jws to maintain relationships with each other instead of shunning the non-jws.. how would a jw react to the following?.

do christians shun or not associate with non-jws to help non-jws believe that the wtbts has the "truth", to keep the cong clean of non-believers, or to not be shunned?

ABibleStudent

After reading the thread Soon to be 18 and quit speaking to her mother- suggestions?, I started thinking of how to use the WTBTS's doctrine to help JWs to see what is the real purpose of shunning for the WTBTS. Hopefully, some good ideas will be posted to this thread and may help exJWs and JWs to maintain relationships with each other instead of shunning the non-JWs.

How would a JW react to the following?

Do Christians shun or not associate with non-JWs to help non-JWs believe that the WTBTS has the "Truth", to keep the cong clean of non-believers, or to not be shunned? If you are a Christian, please show me in the Bible one example more than I can show you the oppisite of Jesus Christ shunning or not associating with non-believers. If you can, I will return/join the WTBTS. If you cannot, than how can you justify the WTBTS promoting shunning or not associating with non-JWs. (pause)

If you cannot defend the WTBTS-s doctrines and still shun or not associate with non-JWs, how can you call yourself a Christian?

How would you interpret Jesus Christ's intentions after reading Mt 5:43-48, Mt 9:9-12, Mt 21:28-31, Mark 2:13-17, John 4:7-9, Acts 10:28, MT 15:21-28?

How would you try to reason with a JW about shunning or not associating with you?

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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You put your right foot in...you put your left foot out...

by hokeypokey in

enjoying the commentary on this board and up at night doing some research.

coming to grips with my new reality.

- hokey pokey.

ABibleStudent

Hi hokeypokey, I'm sorry that your life has turned into an emotional rollercoaster for you. DITTO what others have recommended to not tell your wife what you feel and think about the WTBTS. Do more research about the WTBTS by visiting websites like www.jwfacts.com and researching what BITE control techniques that the WTBTS uses to victimize JWs by visiting www.freedomofmind.com before making any life altering decisions.

If you are not financially secure enough to talk with a cult-exit counselor, keep on posting on JWN to vent about your feelings and to ask for more detailed advice about helping your wfe and children to critically think for themselves.

Anything that you can do to encourage your children to make more non-JW friends and to play sports will help you and your wife to meet more non-JWs and to build-up your non-JW support network.

Best of wishes helping your JW family and friends to critically think for themselves.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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A story about Reggie and Reginald... and why it makes me cringe... more vomiting

by confusedandalone in

so i grew up in new jersey in a very urban part of the state.

i literally only saw white folks if they were in a police car or if i went to the assembly.

the funny thing is at the assembly there was still a level of segregation as well although it was self-imposed.

ABibleStudent

Hi confusedandalone, As a white guy, I apologize for how you were treated by the white A$$hole JWs when you were younger. They were just scared of you and other African Americans. It is sad that some people think that the only way to feel good is to put other people down.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert