Posts by Cicatrix

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Women cause intestinal bowel problems in men, and shorten their life.

by Pepper in

i have found that women do cause men to die early, even if they don't want to they do.

they must gods way making gods of us men in due time.

i love women but i don't like what they can do to a good man namely drive him crazy.

Cicatrix

And the Bible also says that when Abraham and Sarah got in a fight, God told Abraham to listen to her.

So that must mean women are always right, cause God said so.

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Idiosyncrasies Of Jehovah's Witnesses

by minimus in

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jw's are a peculiar bunch.

certain things are characteristic of the witnesses.

jw's are known for some weird, unconventional things.

I'm so excited

by obiwan in

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i'm so excited, when i lived in alaska, i used to hunt quite a bit.

but, the last time i went hunting, it was for kodiak grizzly bear.

i had never went after something so large before.

Cicatrix

Obiwan,

Are you aware that in certain counties in Michigan the deer are suffering from increased incidences of TB?

Be sure to cook your meat well and use gloves when you process the game. You may want to search the internet for more info.

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The Worst Thing You Ever Did As A Jehovah's Witness

by minimus in

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what's the worst thing you did as a jw?.......for me, it was to help other persons come to love the "organization".

Cicatrix

Believing the elder who told me that I was going to doom my children to death in Armageddon if I didn't stay in the organisation.

Not trusting my gut instinct to leave the org a year after I was baptised, and staying in for fifteen very long years.

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What musical groups or songs were bad according to JWs?

by Victorian sky in

what songs or groups were you forbidden to listen to as a jw?

were any specifically mentioned from the platform or were you counseled not to listen to a certain song?

for me it was the entire def leopard hysteria album - bad heavy metal told it was demonic, i listened to it in secret, silk's "freak me" - a virgin listening to a song about hot sex?

Just before we bailed, my daughter was constantly being counseled for listening to the band Creed. She was told that she shouldn't listen to them because they are a Christian band. She started carrying an article from a magazine in which the members of Creed stated that they were not a Christian band.

Being as I'm the one who bought her her first Creed album, she was allowed to keep them. I love the song "What IF":)

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Jehovah's Witnesses Are Under Mind Control

by minimus in

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if you were to tell a witness that they were "brainwashed" or that they were "under mind control", they certainly would not rationally accept it.the reason is because witnesses cannot distinguish between mind control and "obeying the faithful and discreet slave".

it is only after a person stops exposing himself to the subtle mind controlling tactics of the watchtower that a person can see how thoroughly duped they are in their beliefs.

how might you be able to tell that you are no longer your own person, able to make your own decisions in your life?

Cicatrix

............Any other proofs that JW's are mind controlled???

When faced with a person who says they are being brainwashed, they say stuff like "Well, if learning by repetition not to do things like steal and commit adultery is brainwashing, then I want my brain that clean." .. and all the while they are so anxious about not breaking any of the thousands of little rules- like not wearing their skirt past their knees or watching Smurfs on tv- that it is making them literally sick, until they wake up one day and realize that they don't have to attend five meetings a week to keep from becoming a thief and an adulterer, because it was never anything they intended to do all along.

Yep, that was me folks. LOL

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Jehovah's Witnesses Are Under Mind Control

by minimus in

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friends

if you were to tell a witness that they were "brainwashed" or that they were "under mind control", they certainly would not rationally accept it.the reason is because witnesses cannot distinguish between mind control and "obeying the faithful and discreet slave".

it is only after a person stops exposing himself to the subtle mind controlling tactics of the watchtower that a person can see how thoroughly duped they are in their beliefs.

how might you be able to tell that you are no longer your own person, able to make your own decisions in your life?

Cicatrix

............Any other proofs that JW's are mind controlled???

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Jehovah's Witnesses Are Under Mind Control

by minimus in

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friends

if you were to tell a witness that they were "brainwashed" or that they were "under mind control", they certainly would not rationally accept it.the reason is because witnesses cannot distinguish between mind control and "obeying the faithful and discreet slave".

it is only after a person stops exposing himself to the subtle mind controlling tactics of the watchtower that a person can see how thoroughly duped they are in their beliefs.

how might you be able to tell that you are no longer your own person, able to make your own decisions in your life?

Cicatrix

Ubiquitous-

So then why was my mother told by two elders that she would NEVER be baptised if she talked to me after I disassociated myself?

That doesn't seem very gray to me.

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How to Eders influence you?

by UpAndAtom in

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i am not a jw (never have been)... and am curious by the "10 hrs" i see posted from time to time.. does an elder pull you aside and say, "i see you've only done 9 hours, so i will revoke your status of ____?

" do they actually have an scripture reason for insisting on logging hours?

they must have some kind of reason that makes sence, otherwise you could just turn around and say, "two hours is enough - it's the quality, not the quantity" or can't you talk like this to an elder?

Cicatrix

The printed protocol is that there is no "official" hourly requirement, that ten hours is just what the average Witness manages, and that it indicates spiritual health to put in at least that many hours (but of course the more you go out, the better). However,in reality, Witnesses are judged by the number of hours they spend in service. Field service time is often used when elders decide whether or not a person is fit for baptism or other priviledges. Some events that Witnesses participate in, such as attending a "quick built Kingdom Hall event" require that the Witness be of "good spiritual standing", which translates to attending all five meetings a week, commenting at said meetings, and going out in service at least ten hours a month.There are many families who won't associate on a social level with other families who don't put in ten hours a month.

Unfortunately, this unofficial protocol creates a class system and allows some elders to use their position of power to prevent persons with whom they have differences from being considered members of "good spiritual standing". A person may be held back from being baptised simply because they are not putting in ten hours of field service a month. Oftentimes, issues such as health, age, and the need to earn a living to support one's family aren't even taken into consideration, because- according to the upper eschalon at Bethel who are supported by 'voluntary' donations- "Jehovah will provide for his faithful followers"-leaving the unspoken impression that those who aren't faring well are obviously not doing enough in Jehovah's service to warrant his care. In fact, people with health problems that are not deemed "legitimate" by the congregation (ie-they are not easily discerned by outward appearances) are often made examples of when they cannot make the congregation hourly requirement.Oh, it is all done on an "anonymous" level in the local needs talks, but one usually knows which families go out on a regular basis and which ones do not.

Some scriptural admonitions I've heard used as justification are "exert yourself vigorously", and the fact that the nation of Israel recorded things such as geneologies and the materials used in the building of the temple, so naturally, it would be expected that they also kept a careful record of their service time.

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I'm so glad I won't be in 'the new system'

by Simon in

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because i hate gardening !!!.

after many, many weeks or months of hard labour, clearing away 3 or 4 skips worth of rubble from paths, sheds and greenhouses, digging over soil and leveling it we finally layed our turf today!.

i am knackered and don't even have any beer in the house .

Cicatrix

What a beautiful lawn, Simon and Angharad!

Ironically, we are working on adding an attached greenhouse so I can expand our garden and reduce our lawn size. We are pouring the cement this afternoon, in fact. But then, I'm an advocate of low maintenance gardening-I weed until the plants are well established, then I don't weed anymore.It looks messy, but it works out pretty well, as the bugs tend to be attracted to the weeds instead of my plants (with the exception of potatoes, and I solved that problem-I don't grow potatoes.They're too cheap to bother with the hassle).Next year, I hope to install an irrigation system, then I'll just have to turn on a faucet to water,too.

As far as the mowing goes, if I had my way, we would just "naturalize" our two acre lawn,but I have four boys with a thing for mowing, not to mention a father-in-law with a brand new wide-deck ride-on mower, so I don't have to touch the lawn, hehe. The thing is, if I "lived forever in Paradise," none of them would be there, being the "worldly" people they are, and I would have to mow my lawn myself, lol.

And as far as the vacuum goes, I'm tellin' you-wood floors are the way to go!I had to vacuum constantly when I was a kid, and I hated it. When we moved into our house, we ripped out all the carpeting as soon as we could and replaced it with wood.