Posts by exwhyzee

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Is it kind of funny that JWs don't give Jesus resurrection day any notice?

by Comatose in

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if you think about it, for a die hard christian the day jesus was supposed to be resurrected and back in heaven, thereby fulfilling his earthly mission, is a very big day.

all the jws i know never even thought about it.

in fact if i had mentioned it, i bet they would have looked me at strangely.

exwhyzee

exwhyzee said

If people had simply ignored Jesus and allowed him to carry on, he'd have died of old age and nothing would have been accomplished.

EMETH: the point is he would not have died of old age

Why not ? He was once a baby and aged to the point of adulthood, who knows how old he would have gotten if he hadn't been killed. He was a human but didn't have evelasting life as such. If he hadn't been killed, he'd have had to return to heaven somehow to begin his rulership.

Everyone focuses on how appaling it is that wicked humans put Jesus to death, but it had to happen in order to buy back the life Adam and Eve lost for us....right?

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Is it kind of funny that JWs don't give Jesus resurrection day any notice?

by Comatose in

jw
friends

if you think about it, for a die hard christian the day jesus was supposed to be resurrected and back in heaven, thereby fulfilling his earthly mission, is a very big day.

all the jws i know never even thought about it.

in fact if i had mentioned it, i bet they would have looked me at strangely.

exwhyzee

They don't pay attention to anything where an acutal celebrattion is in order or where something has already been accomplished. They only put emphasis on things that are yet to come and especially on things having to do with martyrdom or fear inducing events.

They never mention the idea that someone HAD to kill Jesus so that his death would be the sacrafice that bought back the lives of all mankind. If people had simply ignored Jesus and allowed him to carry on or if they all accepted his message....then what. He'd have died of old age and nothing would have been accomplished. The way God supposedly set things up, his sacrificial death was the only way for the human race to be rid of the curse it is under.

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A farce elder here

by His Excellency in

just to share a little about me:.

i was recently appointed an elder, about 6 months ago now, and that is exactly two years after my awakenning, but funny that the appointment came also about 2 years after i had completely lost all faith in god and had been leading a full time anti-jw life .

makes you wonder the role of the holy spirit in the entire nomination or appointment process.. .

exwhyzee

So JUDGE no one

I do not know you nor am I a judge and have no authority on this forum but I am entitled to an opinion. As a former lifelong JW who lost his nonJW father who listened to the advice of the (phony) Elder he was studying with, to refuse a blood transfusion, it sickens me to think that anyone would pretend to support that organization when he knows better. My father died a hideous death in front of his family because of the no blood lie. The (phony) Elders assured us our father would be resureected because he died faithful to Jehovah. Then when we asked if we could hold his memorial at the Kingdom Hall, they refused because he wasn't a baptized JW.

You can quote Mark Twain or any other famous person out of context all day long but don't pretend you are doing something noble here by accepting the position of an Elder when you know better and then misleading an entire congregation of people in two ways. Once simply because they are JW's and belong to a misguided and dangerous religion and you have signed on as one of it's leaders. A second time because they trust you and expect you to guide them in their chosen path however mistaken we may think it is. They think you are a true JW and that you are being honest with them about who you really are.

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A farce elder here

by His Excellency in

just to share a little about me:.

i was recently appointed an elder, about 6 months ago now, and that is exactly two years after my awakenning, but funny that the appointment came also about 2 years after i had completely lost all faith in god and had been leading a full time anti-jw life .

makes you wonder the role of the holy spirit in the entire nomination or appointment process.. .

exwhyzee

it's one thing to be leading people down a wrong path when you are blind yourself and truly believe it is the right one but to do this knowing full well that you don't believe it and are secretly leading another life, is a pretty messed up thing to do in my opinion. Maybe I'm getting the wrong take on this but I think you will be the one who gets burned in the end, not only because you will eventually be caught but unless you're some kind of sociopath who can turn your soul on and off like a light switch, you won't be able to respect or trust or even like yourself. I can understand those who attend meetings etc just to keep the damage to their famly and social life to a minimum but it's difficult for me to understand someone who accepts a position of leadership and knowingly and deliberately misleads these overly trusting people down a path he admittedly has left himself.This is especially so when there is the possibility that your admonitions from the platform, leadership and counsil could convince them to follow through with refusing a lifesaving blood transfusion for their child, for example or make some other important life decision based on your influence.

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No Memorial invitation for us :)

by truthseekeriam in

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friends

this morning as my husband and i were backing out of our garage to head out to the farmers market a jw was walking up our walkway with his invitation.

he didn't see us and we didn't rocongnize him but a brother and sister we knew well actually looked our way.

we decided not to bother and went our way to enjoy a lovely morning picking out fresh fruit and vegetables knowing when we got home the invitation would be stuffed in our door.

exwhyzee

So I decided to send a text. “I respectfully decline this invitation and any future invitations. Please do not contact me again. Thank you.” Short and sweet. Hope they get it this time… lol... just listened to it again... it was directed to just me. Not to the whole family. He didn't ask Mrs. Dazed?

You should have added "P.S. Mrs Dazed and the family are fine....not that you asked."

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No Memorial invitation for us :)

by truthseekeriam in

jw
friends

this morning as my husband and i were backing out of our garage to head out to the farmers market a jw was walking up our walkway with his invitation.

he didn't see us and we didn't rocongnize him but a brother and sister we knew well actually looked our way.

we decided not to bother and went our way to enjoy a lovely morning picking out fresh fruit and vegetables knowing when we got home the invitation would be stuffed in our door.

exwhyzee

JW's have very little personal power and they use the little bit they are allowed, any time they can....especially when there's an opportunity to make themselves feel extra virtuous at someone else's expense.

Boy....they really showed you didn't they ?? What a burn LOL !

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Anyone Here Used to Fear Persecution?

by kneehighmiah in

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friends

i was thinking today about how i no longer have to fear the attack of satan against the jws.

i used to fear being rounded up and beaten by mobs.

seeing my family tortured.

exwhyzee

I had a childhood filled with sleepless nights about the tribulation and even a fear that my kind loving non JW Father would turn against us and turn us in, during the tribulation. They said from the platform that this would happen and that our own family would deliver us up to the authorities. My Sisters used to bawl during the meetings and cry for poor Dad who was at home alone during meeting nights while his four children were being turned against him.

I used to fear that someone would get ahold my 2 little sisters and torture them until I renounced my faith in Jehovah. They used to dwell on this stuff in the meetings and I was certain that it would happen to me. I felt the weight of the whole world on my shoulders . I knew that if they threatened to hurt my sisters I could never be strong enough not to give in even though they promised that once you gave in, they'd kill you and your family anyway.

For anyone who was too young to remember that time leading up to 1975, the level of cultishness and outright fanatcism that was happenig is hard to even imagine. When you look at the watered down version of what it takes to be a JW today one can't help but conclude that it's not even the same religion that we were baptized into. As far as I'm concerned, by baptisim is null and void and they rubbed the sparkle of my childhood with their crazy lies. I can't help but think that if there really is a God, they will be held responsible for the damage they've caused.

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Hey! Any Ex/non/jw folk from the liverpool merseyside area?!

by Jon Preston in

just saying you guys/gals have to love that both everton and liverpool are possible for cl football!!!!

lets hope!!

im a die hard liverpool fan but lets join ranks for the 96 and hopenthey both get into europe!

exwhyzee

I'm in the U.S but have stayed with family on Broxton Ave. in Mersyside....does that count?

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If Jealousy is a sin, why is God a jealous God?

by jam in

i'm sure someone will explain the difference between a. sinful jealousy and a holy jealousy..

exwhyzee

There you go thinkin' again JAM.....you're gonna' think yourself right out of the truth if you're not careful.

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July 2014 WT cracks down on apostate debates and 'dance parties'

by EndofMysteries in

in the july 2014 study wt article titled "jehovah's people "renouce unrighteousness".

par 9 and 10 .

9. how did foolish and ignorant debates affect the early christian congregation?.

exwhyzee

If it brings up unwanted thoughts for someone to dance or attend a "dance party" maybe they should stay away from them or maybe they should finally learn some self control. The trouble is, if you get a few of those types in a congregation or in a position of authority, they'll often impose thier problem on everyone and suddenly no one can do anything except have Bible based costume parties.