Posts by ambersun

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Playing LIVE worldly music and dance party INSIDE kingdomhall??? Is the WT turning pentecostal??

by EndofMysteries in

i can't believe this was a gb approved event since it was for international convention people.

if somebody tried to do this on a wedding they'd get dfed in a heart beat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dqcj6e78jm.

ambersun

I am only just getting my head round this one after being rendered totally speechless. Back in the 1960s me and my siblings were banned from listening to pop music as it was from Satan the devil and only classical music or Kingdom melodies were allowed in our house. Yet here we see a group of brothers and sisters on the platform of a Kingdom Hall girating and warbling their way through a medley of the very same songs that I, as a JW teenager, was banned from listening to on the radio by my strict JW parents!! Then to cap it all they end up with the entire congregation up on their feet jumping around and clapping to a worldly song from today's charts with enough gusto to rival any self respecting Pentecostal congregation on a good day. Was this really done with the blessing of the GB?!!

I can only wonder what my elder dad would have to say about this if he was still alive today. In fact, how many elders and elders wives who previously looked down their noses and actually condemned members of the congregation for listening to pop music were there joining in or watching this video on you tube and commenting on how wonderful it is, just because the current GB apparently approves of such behaviour?

The words fickle and hypocritical come to mind.

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Name Some Things That JWs Look Down Upon That Normal People Wouldn't Even Think About?

by minimus in

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jws look down on others for saying, "bless you" if someone sneezes.

it has something to do with the demons.

another example is that it is considered satanic if a man took his hat off for a lady!

ambersun

If a woman or girl turned up at the meeting wearing trousers (pants). Her husband or father (as her head) would be severely reprimanded for allowing such immodest behaviour. I know this from personal experience when attending our very first meeting as a family back in the 1960s! Alarm bells should have been ringing loudly in my dad's brain or even in my mom's brain but sadly not...

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Full-time service is MORE IMPORTANT than taking care of elderly parents!!! It says so in the Sept 2014 WT

by EndofMysteries in

paragraph 20 out of the article in the sept 2014 study wt about fulltime service says this.... .

"full-time servants age, and so do their parents.

when parents are witnesses, likely their fondest wish is for their children to stay in their assignments.

ambersun

Have the writers of this drivel stopped to consider for one second what kind of 'witness' this is giving to the outside world? These poor elderly parents are being left to the mercy of members of their congregation to care for their needs because their own flesh and blood need to carry on knocking doors peddling WT literatrash as this is far more important!

Well, I can inform WT that all the worldly people I come into contact with who have seen this sort of thing going on are totally disgusted by it. No TRUE Christian would put the demands of a religion before the needs of their own flesh and blood.

I am currently in the process of trying to get across to my own JW relative who is a full time carer that she shouldn't be expected to go out getting her hours in in the ministry when she is already exhausted. This religion is totally lacking in compassion towards its members and in my mind is evil!

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Giving "Jehovahs spirit" credit for mundane, everyday things!

by BU2B in

i am hearing this more and more and it is like nails on a chalkboard.

i hear it from the wt, from elders, from my parents and from jws in general.

this had to be jehovahs spirit!

ambersun

I can remember a newly married pioneer couple back in the 1960s who were very poor due to no jobs but had a particularly generous neighbour. This neighbour was not a JW but had lived next door to the sister and her family for many years and out of the kindness of his heart provided the couple with some furniture for their new home.

I also knew this neighbour and one day he told me that he had never had a word of thanks for his generosity, just an overheard comment that Jehovah always provides for those who are serving him.

Well, this neighbour indignantly told me that "Jehovah" would not be providing any more!

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New "Caleb and Sofia" video on JW.ORG....you have to see it!

by stuckinarut2 in

ok, so i dont want to be a negative bitter person...and we all love little kids, but i am just so torn about the new video just uploaded on jw.org.

if you havent watched it yet, have a look at it...."an animated series that touches hearts".

(yes, its well done...and they certainly like to do a lot of boasting about their technical skills etc...).

ambersun

I find it particularly chilling watching AM III interacting with the cartoon Caleb like some kind of cuddly jovial uncle figure, having seen the REAL man in action on other videos where he can be seen coldly instructing parents to practically force their teenage children into 'voluntary' baptism then completely shun them if they dare to break any of WT's super controlling rules including using their young minds for independent thought and attempting to break free from the restraints of the cult. He shows no mercy and no concern whatsoever for any danger they might be in having been thrown out into a world they are totally unprepared for.

He is certainly no kind cuddly uncle figure on THOSE videos!!

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Another cheery video for the kids on jw.dork

by konceptual99 in

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http://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/children/become-jehovahs-friend/videos/kids-animated-videos/.

enjoy..

ambersun

Liitle children be warned! That smiley faced kind looking man acting like Walt Disney, handing Caleb the sheet of paper at the beginning of the video, is not who he seems.

He is actually a very cold, calculating leader of a cult who will put pressure on your parents to

force you into baptism before your 16th birthday by depriving you of a driving licence unless you comply and do the deed.

He will then order your parents to throw you out of the house and shun you when you behave like a normal teenager and break one of Watchtower's multitude of draconian rules forbidding such things as independent thinking or having sex. You will be thrown out into a world you are totally unprepared for with no family or friends to turn to as they will all treat you as though you are dead. There will be no mercy. Mercy is forbidden as it would indicate disloyalty to Jehovah on behalf of the family member or friend showing compassion towards tou. Even your own MOTHER.

Caleb is a cartoon character and will never grow up and face this nightmare scenario but you will.

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If you had the audience of the GB, what is your #1 question you would ask them?

by Darth Fader The Sequel in

there are a million of them and mine is by no means the most important question to ask them if i only had one shot at it.

but, i have always wondered what kind of bs excuse they would give as an answer to this question: "brother goober bum, given that there are both male and female partakers here on earth who claim to be of the 'anointed' and plan on being of the 144,000 ruling with christ in heaven for eternity........ why are the female 'anointed' treated as submissive, second class citizens and why is their opinion on doctrinal matters, matters of teaching and reproving, anything at all.... why are they not recognized while here on earth even though you claim that jesus has selected them to become angels to rule with him?

".

ambersun

Why is the average rank and file member's faith so fragile that you have to stop them from doing their own research?

Surely if this is the truth and all other teachings are lies

it would not be so easy to put doubts in their minds and cause them to wake up to the truth about the truth which is what is happening to them in droves now they have access to the internet!

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Watchtower examination

by Ignoranceisbliss in

i have been really enjoying the new series of videos on youtube by "watchtower examination".

the dude is wicked smart.

just curious if he is a member on this forum?.

ambersun

I agree his videos are brilliant! I am a subscriber.

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Mental Health Issues in JW Women

by Seven in

here's a click to the cultic studies journalissue concerning jw women.

[url] http://www.csj.org/pub_csj/csj_vol14_no1_97/abs_wifely.htm#top[/url]

ambersun

All my self confidence was eroded within a few years of becoming a jw as a teenager. I remember one of the first lessons I was taught was that as a female my brain was tiny compared to a male's and I was ruled by emotions instead of reason which is why I would always be inferior. I was grammar school educated and read a lot, and was often asked by my male peers within the congregation to help them with information for their talks but, of course, I could never stand on the platform and give that information in my own right as I was not allowed to teach the superior males.

You only have to watch those dreadful Caleb videos and the way Watchtower depict Caleb's neurotic mother to get an idea of how women are viewed by the Society. Disgraceful the way they are still getting away with this attitude!

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Why Do Certain "Inactive Ones" Get Bothered By The Elders While Others Don't?

by minimus in

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it seems some inactive ones and active jws are hardly ever bothered by the elders while others are constantly called, checked up on, etc...... what gives?.

ambersun

Just out of interest, how long after fading can you get df'd? I've been out over 2 decades and I'm getting sick and tired of keeping quiet so I don't offend anyone or cause them to have to shun me, and feel it is more important to start using my acquired knowledge regarding TTATT to try and help my jw family to wake up! I'm willing to take that chance but would like to know where I stand.