Posts by joenobody

Jim, I anxiously await the transcript. What an absolutely incredible amount of work you have been undertaking. This kind of court recorded testimony is so damning as a first-hand witness account of what actually happened. It's so tough otherwise when most of us weren't around 90 years ago to have a real feel for what was going on.

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song 287: Move Your Buttocks

by gitasatsangha in

(another song suggestion: a revamp to an old jahova classic, same music) .

till twenty-thirty-four.

its the will of our god.

joenobody

Ah yes "e'en" - the lousy WT songwriter's best friend to a two syllable problem lyric - make a new contraction!

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Ray Franz

by scrubmaster in

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i am sure this has been asked before -- but has anyone here every spoke to ray franz or email him.

if so i would like to email him or call her.

joenobody

Amazing has spoken with him before as have some of the other veteran posters.

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Awake! says we can pray in Jesus' name!!!

by Leolaia in

according to this, jesus is not just the mediator of the 144,000 -- he's the mediator of mankind!!

and apparently "dear jesus" prayers are okay!

the watch tower says i can say, "dear jesus, you are my mediator as you are for all mankind..." "the bible clearly says that jesus christ is mankind's redeemer, so he is mankind's mediator.

joenobody

Joysome,

I sense that you are sincerely stating that JWs stand up to scrutiny. I think if you honestly feel this way, you ought to do some research. Perhaps look the Quotes website which contains quotes from WT publication without extra editorializing.

I think you might they don't stand up to scrutiny by their own documentation.

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Awake! says we can pray in Jesus' name!!!

by Leolaia in

according to this, jesus is not just the mediator of the 144,000 -- he's the mediator of mankind!!

and apparently "dear jesus" prayers are okay!

the watch tower says i can say, "dear jesus, you are my mediator as you are for all mankind..." "the bible clearly says that jesus christ is mankind's redeemer, so he is mankind's mediator.

joenobody

I think you've misunderstood what the have said...

They mean you should add the little "In Jesus name..." routing instruction at the end of your prayer.

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Can "Disassociated" ex-jw's be "reinstated" back as jw's?

by jads in

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friends

i was shocked one day when i was talking to a friend of mine who "disassociated" himself from the wt in the mid-80's and was heavy in the "apostate movement".

he told me that he is thinking about going back to the jw's and be "reinstated" but he was not sure if "disassociated" ex-jw's could be reinstated.

i thought he was joking at first because he was one of the people that helped me out of the wt.

joenobody

Was it Psalms that talked about the dogs that "returned to their own vomit?"

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WBTS gets foriegn funding in INdia 2000-2001

by Wallflower in

i found this article by accident.

foreign funding for indian ngos.

2000-2001 beneficiaries - third biggest the watchtower and tract society.

joenobody

And more on the matter:

http://www.watchtowernews.org/indiabethel.htm