This is a really really big deal. Congrats to Angus and Cedars for publicizing this.
SIAM
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/war-of-words-breaks-out-among-jehovahs-witnesses-2361448.html.
This is a really really big deal. Congrats to Angus and Cedars for publicizing this.
SIAM
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/war-of-words-breaks-out-among-jehovahs-witnesses-2361448.html.
"Recognize their right to leave"....without sanctions or shunning?
Come on Rick can you elaborate.... if I left the organization because of doctrinal differences, would my family be instructed to shun me?
SIAM
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/war-of-words-breaks-out-among-jehovahs-witnesses-2361448.html.
credit goes to anony mous=http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/members/private/215963/1/ready-to-leak-wikileaks-style=anony mous wrote:=hi,=i have a cache of documents that are direct from the branch.
they include letters, forms, videos, booklets, instructions on how to handle everything in kingdom hall locally and rbc's financially and otherwise.=includes the branch's instructions on how to write the local incorporations so that all assets go to watchtower inc. and in case that corporation doesn't exist anymore or is no longer tax free, to the governing body (that's what it says!).
i have them for all states but only going to include ny (since that's where they are located).
Its a business 00DAD. Religion is just a vehicle for the corp. The standardized plans for halls remind me of a franchise trying to keep a uniform brand.
Gotta love the instructions on destroying the letters to the BOE.
I wonder what job on the RBC Jesus would have had? Chairman, CFO, Framing overseer?
hi everyone.
as a parting gift to you all before i take a much needed break from this forum, i thought you would be pleased to know that the independent, a leading uk newspaper, will be publishing a piece on the "mentally diseased" watchtower article in tomorrow's edition.. i would like to thank everybody who has assisted the journalist, jerome taylor, in his investigation.. best wishes to all of you,.
cedars.
Woohooooo! Great work cedars.
SIAM
here is why, even though i no longer agree with most of what the gb/wt/jw's teach, i still feel especially close to all of us who were apart of this group.
born in or converted.
we all have had the same life experience of being raised in a over bearing mind controlling cult.
We are family
I got all my brothers and sisters with me
We are family
Get up everybody and sing
Everyone can see we're together
As we walk on by
And we fly just like birds of a feather
I'm not telling no lie
All of the people around us to say
Can we be that close
Just let me state for the record
We're giving love in a family dose, yeah
CHORUS
We are family
I got all my brothers and sisters with me
We are family
Get up everybody and sing
We are family
I got all my sisters with me
We are family
Get up everybody and sing
Living life is fun and we've just begun
To get our share of the world's delights
High hopes we have for the future
And our goal's in sight
No we don't get depressed
Here's what we call our golden rule
Have faith in you and the things you do
You won't go wrong, oh no
This is our family Jewel, yeah
CHORUS
We are family
I got all my brothers and sisters with me
We are family
Get up everybody and sing
do you feel that something has changed within god's organization?
have you noticed that in the past several years there has been a more authoritarian spirit displayed in the publications and from the platform?
i am in the beginning stages of a fade away and wanted to express my thoughts.
Bump for any newbie lurkers
SIAM
maybe i am off base, but it seems that the last year or so hasn't had the standard retoric about how "imminent, close, or soon" the end will be.
it seems as if the focus is now on obeying the governing body.
have you noticed this?.
Thanks Wannabefree,
I stand corrected. It must be my lack of faith that has caused me to ignore these warnings and timely reminders.
SIAM
autologous blood transfusion jehovahs witnesses.
today i uploaded a new article to my blog addressing watchtowers doctrinal position on transfusion of whole autologous blood.
what was once forbidden is no longer forbidden.
Marvin you are the man! This is exactly why no one can understand the blood doctrine .....because it makes no sense!
Thanks for all of your work.
SIAM
i would like to think of myself as an academic.
im starting my second degree and i enjoy research.
when i see a statement backed up by references and support from a credible source, sometimes i get excited.
Nice to see you around here Greybeard!
SIAM