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Ray Franz Tribute

by besty in

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over at freeminds we didn't want this day to pass without some recognition of the life and death of ray franz.

in view of his stated wishes not to have a memorial or service we hoped for something that he would have liked for all of us to take a moment over.. .

we owe a note of thanks to v for his graphics work and atjeff for the obituary writing - i know neither of them need mentioned by me.. .

Audio: Generation teaching as explained at the San Diego District Convention 05-30-2010

by kurtbethel in

this is an excerpt from the final talk of the day, "remain in the secret place of the most high".

i looked around as this explanation was being offered up, and the looks on the faces of people there was mostly disinterest.

this is a very convoluted explanation that reminds me of someone running a con and trying to cobble together an explanation to deal with legitimate objections to their false claims.. http://www.sendspace.com/file/dodp4w.

HappyOutsideTheBox

Isn't it amazing to think how a few years ago we would have been nodding in agreement and then speaking of the wonderful new light shed on things after the sessions. That would have been followed by KM instructions and demonstrations as to how we could best use the new 'truth' to teach bible students.

Listening to the recording felt so 'familiar' and yet so false.

How many years did I fool myself into believing and going along with what came from'Mother'? Thank goodness I eventually woke up

Thanks for sharing the recording.

It's great to be free

HOTB

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OMG! I am 50 this year! Why am I freaking out? Anger - how do you cope?

by hamsterbait in

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i was told when i hit thirty and was catastrophising, "just wait till you are 40, it just gets better.".

ha!.

i am fifty in a few weeks.

HappyOutsideTheBox

Like you I'll be 50 in a few weeks. Like you all my life has been controlled and I have missed so much. However, there were many good times along the way that I don't regret.

Now I look in the mirror and ignore what I see. We have hair dye...what more does a girl need .

Seriously though. I do have occasional moments of anger that I missed out on my life. Now I'm in control I do thinks my way. I make my choices and live exactly the way I want.

Don't play over in your mind what you missed - that is wasted emotion and energy. Focus instead on what you have and the opportunities that you can reach out for now. You can do what ever you please - no one will stop you.

Don't think about illness, age, infirmity. Deal with it when it comes not before....

Have a happy day and look forward to making the very best memories you can.

HOTB

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This is too good not to share!

by HappyOutsideTheBox in

in her radio show, dr laura schlesinger said that, as an observant orthodox jew, homosexuality is an abomination according to leviticus 18:22, and cannot be condoned under any circumstance.

the following response is an open letter to dr. laura, penned by a us resident, which was posted on the internet.

it's funny, as well as informative:.

HappyOutsideTheBox

Glad you all enjoyed it - I thought it was great.

What a great clip Shopaholic. I have never seen the show but he certainly used that same argumentation.

Don't you wish someone could have given that in talk form in the KH? They would of course soon have been dragged outside to the wee room for some adjustments - but what a way to go!

HOTB

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This is too good not to share!

by HappyOutsideTheBox in

in her radio show, dr laura schlesinger said that, as an observant orthodox jew, homosexuality is an abomination according to leviticus 18:22, and cannot be condoned under any circumstance.

the following response is an open letter to dr. laura, penned by a us resident, which was posted on the internet.

it's funny, as well as informative:.

HappyOutsideTheBox

Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair, like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

It makes you realise how ludicrous the whole 'law' thing is doesn't it?

HOTB

I think we can safely assume that Canadians will be safe for the duration - I haven't seen any 'For Sale' Signs!

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This is too good not to share!

by HappyOutsideTheBox in

in her radio show, dr laura schlesinger said that, as an observant orthodox jew, homosexuality is an abomination according to leviticus 18:22, and cannot be condoned under any circumstance.

the following response is an open letter to dr. laura, penned by a us resident, which was posted on the internet.

it's funny, as well as informative:.

HappyOutsideTheBox

In her radio show, Dr Laura Schlesinger said that, as an observant Orthodox Jew, homosexuality is an abomination according to Leviticus 18:22, and cannot be condoned under any circumstance. The following response is an open letter to Dr. Laura, penned by a US resident, which was posted on the Internet. It's funny, as well as informative:

Dear Dr. Laura:

Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination ... End of debate.

I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some other elements of God's Laws and how to follow them.

1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of Menstrual uncleanliness - Lev.15: 19-24. The problem is how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord - Lev.1:9. The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

5. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it?

6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination, Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this? Are there 'degrees' of abomination?

7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle-room here?

8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?

9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair, like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

I know you have studied these things extensively and thus enjoy considerable expertise in such matters, so I'm confident you can help.

Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.

Your adoring fan.
James M. Kauffman,
Ed.D. Professor Emeritus,
Dept. Of Curriculum, Instruction, and Special Education
University of Virginia

(It would be a damn shame if we couldn't own a Canadian

HOTB

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AMAZING SPEECH by Stephen Fry

by iknowall558 in

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friends

http://atheistnews.blogs.fi/2010/04/15/stephen-fry-s-magnificent-speech-in-the-intelligence-debate-8376219/.

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HappyOutsideTheBox

What a wonderfully eloquent man and so correct in his observations.

If only more people had the balanced view he has the world would be a much more peaceful place without the control of religion and crazy unquestioned beliefs and actions of the 'believers'.

Well done Stephen

HOTB

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I have a touchy situation...could use some advice

by tenyearsafter in

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friends

i just got an e-mail from my 80 year old mother asking my wife and i to join her for the memorial this year.

i really don't want to go, but i am also trying to maintain some degree of a relationship with her.

she is breaking the "rules" by not shunning me, but i don't know how she will react if i reject her invitation.

HappyOutsideTheBox

Last year my mother, who was in her 80's, was very upset that I wasn't going to the memorial. We never really spoke about it but her hurt was palpable.

She died very suddenly the week before the memorial.

In retrospect I wish I had agreed to go with her. An hour out of my life would have been no loss - but the gift I would have given her would have been worth every minute.

I can't lessen the pain I gave her ...I wish I could.

You still have your mum. For the sake of making her happy and easing her heart pain - I'd say go. She is worth it and so is your relationship with her. treasure it while you have her.

HOTB

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My Dad died

by aquagirl in

my dad,an elder for 25plus years,concentration camp survivor,the works,died in a few weeks ago.i am df'd but have been the only one who helps him and my mum.my jw sister couldnt give a rats ass about them.i was at my mom and dads house after he died,helping my mom with everyting,hell,id been there for 2 months because i was afraid to leave them alone.i knew my dad wasnt feeling well.guess he was worse than i realized.he died.the witnesses came in droves.small kitchen.im sitting at the table.they not only didnt speak to me,but they didnt even acknowledge that i was in the room,about day 3,i stopped answering the door..one "lady" called.sister carol.when i answered the phone she hesitated and said",now you know,i caint tawk to yew"{strong southern accent.ala elie may clampett}"you orta let cher mawma ainser the phone.

"i told her to bite me and hung up on her...same here,when we got back home.i hate these people with the fury of a thousand suns,but for some reason,i am now in possession of some great elders notes.been laying low,but im going to start posting the juicy stuff.just cause itd be nice for calvin to know that he was seen "dancing recklessly" at a wedding and that sister renee was being councied for her weight and still insisted on gaining more.also that sister e wasnt giving her husband his "due"..{yik}and that certain concetration camp survivors were being coerced into saying that they were jw's at the time of incarceration.but one wouldnt.my dad refused to play their game,and as a result he was asked to step down as an elder at age of 80.that and that he refused to shun me.his notes have been very enlightening..nice folks thise jw's,no?

they were so mean to my dad, he really believed this crap,and tried to do the right thing.but because he wouldnt dance their way,and turn me,his favorite person{and he was mine|into the cold they treated him badly and mocked him and even his accent.i hate them.really.any ideas?the local elder here,just asked my mom about her financial situation...grrrrrrrrrrrrr.

HappyOutsideTheBox

I'm so sorry about your loss.

Losing a parent is one of the most difficult things to go through. To have such blatant disregard and unchristian action shown toward you is unforgivable. The sheer lack of love and concern for you and your mum disgusts me.

You are better off without them - as you well know. Your poor mum will be feeling disoriented in so many ways just now. Coping with her own loss, coping with the so called brothers, and also coping with seeing the horrible way they act towards you.

I wish you the strength to deal with this and the wisdom to let them affect you less that a bit of dog shit on your shoe - wash them off and let your life be free of their offensive odour!

Hugs

HOTB X

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Borg court: 3rd session & verdict

by sd-7 in

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friends

so...the third and final session was pretty straightforward.

they basically asked some more questions about the first woman, before i got back with the woman who became my wife.

then they asked what seemed like nothing more than a customer survey of "how are we doin'?

HappyOutsideTheBox

Hi Christopher,

Sorry you had to go through the jumped up court of little men judging you. They have no right to act as they do and we are under no obligation to think one iota of their so called authority.

You are free now - by your own choice - not their enforcement!

It may not be plain sailing in your family life - but you have the knowledge that you are your own man and answerable to no one now.

I wish you the smoothest journey possible and the happiness that will come with it.

Thought you might like to laugh at this and see in yours the same farce : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJpY7eT6oNk

All the very best

HOTB x