Posts by MrMonroe

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looky looky - A 'real' J-dub forum! (are they becoming normal???)

by Reality79 in

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so did the 'da society' give these dub internet savvies permission to start a forum?

because last i checked, the ole boys in their oversized brooklyn bunker didn't want their members on the internet unless it was to view their own official websites.

i thought maybe it was an apostate forum until i read their long winded, typically condescending jdub style membership guidelines:.

MrMonroe

Oops! Their list of approved "JW friendly websites" includes a link to a site clearly offering apostate material. The Strictly Genteel website contains copies of early Watchtowerrs and old Russell and Rutherford books that are distinctly "old light". Repeating those views today would warant expulsion.

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NZ Earthquake Update

by Murray Smith in

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update from chch nz just in case anyone out there is interested .

we're still gettin kicked up the ass down here by some punchy aftershocks .

still coming at about 1 every 90 mins.

MrMonroe

Hi Murray,

Good to see you've been able to get a bit of distance from the shakin'. I'm out of town for a few days myself from tomorrow but will email you again next week. Lots to talk about.

MM.

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The blessings of being disfellowshipped

by JRK in

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don't get me wrong, it does suck.

but after being on ex-jw boards for years, and being df'ed for almost 10; i do see some hidden blessings.. first, you do not have to struggle with fading successfully.

you are just out; the cord has been cut.

MrMonroe

they just run away from you so they don't catch the apostasy virus.

Beautiful, Illuminator. Love it!

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Did The Elders Ever Try To Adjust YOUR Thinking?

by PublishingCult in

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did the elders ever try to "adjust" your thinking?.

can you share what they felt was incorrect about your thinking?.

MrMonroe

The presiding overseer of my old congregation once came to my house and told me I should probably change occupations. I told him my occupation was my decision, not his. In a sense he was telling me to choose between my job and my religion. In the end I chose my job.

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1994 Canadian TV documentary "Children of Jehovah"

by MrMonroe in

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sorry to be a forum shopper, but just in case there's someone here that didn't read it there, i'm wanting to find anyone who remembers a tv doco produced in 1994 for the canadian "rough cuts" series of independent documentaries called "children of jehovah".. it took a devastatingly honest look at the lives of jw teens, showing them begrudgingly doing field service, revealing the tricks they pulled to boost the figures on their monthly reports and talking about what would happen to them if they left the religion.. it appears to be available for $149 as a dvd, but i wonder if anyone taped it at the time or has a copy they could, you know, share.

somehow.. it made quite an impact on me when i watched it on australia's sbs in 1995. does anyone remember it?.

MrMonroe

Sorry to be a forum shopper, but just in case there's someone here that didn't read it there, I'm wanting to find anyone who remembers a TV doco produced in 1994 for the Canadian "Rough Cuts" series of independent documentaries called "Children of Jehovah".

It took a devastatingly honest look at the lives of JW teens, showing them begrudgingly doing field service, revealing the tricks they pulled to boost the figures on their monthly reports and talking about what would happen to them if they left the religion.

It appears to be available for $149 as a DVD, but I wonder if anyone taped it at the time or has a copy they could, you know, share. Somehow.

It made quite an impact on me when I watched it on Australia's SBS in 1995. Does anyone remember it?

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When You Look Back, Can You Believe That You Actually . . .

by PublishingCult in

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believed you were going to live forever in paradise on earth?.

MrMonroe

I did believe it. It seemed hard to understand, but I did believe.

My belief did start to wane a little as I got sick of all the crap going on, but pretty well evaporated after I stayed a couple of days at the Australian Bethel. I realised there was zero chance that a God would allow these people to run a new system.

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One reason why not the true religion

by chukky 594 in

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hi.

if you had to convince a prospective jw why this religion is not the true religion, and you could only use one reason to persuade them, what would it be?.

chukky.

MrMonroe

Jesus condemned the Pharisees for their legalistic approach to religion with their endless application of arbitrary interpretive rules and the condemnation of those who failed to meet their standards.

Today the JWs operate their religion in exactly the same way, forcing Christians to first gain the approval of the "organisation" (found nowhere in the New Testament) before they can gain the approval of God and Christ. They have endless arbitrary rules and expectations, utterly contradicting the pure, loving and inclusive form of worship Jesus taught.

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Jehovah's Witnesses Are NOT Under Mind Control

by PublishingCult in

how would you respond to the assertion that 7.2 million members of the jehovah's witness religion are not under any sort of mind control?.

the argument being that every one is responsible for their own actions and cannot blame the indoctrinator for what he says and does.

how could they possibly be under mind control?.

MrMonroe

Trevor, offering false promises isn't in itself mind control. It's the constant indoctrination, repetition, the requirement for members to go out and teach what they're told, the prohibition against questioning teachings (and the consequent recoiling reaction among members if something is questioned), the withholding of information, the requirement to restrict social contact with non-believers and the catechistical question-and-answer form of teaching both at meetings and in home bible studies, that helps to shape people's ways of thinking.

And let's not forget the constant repetition of the idea that to disobey the Governing Body is to disobey God.

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