I'm hoping to obtain a copy of the 1939 booklet Advice For Kingdom Publishers. It's a 16-page booklet that was written, I understand, to help US publishers as they embarked on the very vigorous witnessing campaigns that were largely aimed at provoking police and governments to take action against them. I'm particularly interested in what specific advice they were given about creating or avoiding situations likely to result in their arrest. If anyone has a PDF, please DM me; I'd be very grateful. Many websites have the old Rutherford-era publications; this one doesn't seem to be among them.
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PDF of Advice for Kingdom Publishers (1939)
by MrMonroe ini'm hoping to obtain a copy of the 1939 booklet advice for kingdom publishers.
it's a 16-page booklet that was written, i understand, to help us publishers as they embarked on the very vigorous witnessing campaigns that were largely aimed at provoking police and governments to take action against them.
i'm particularly interested in what specific advice they were given about creating or avoiding situations likely to result in their arrest.
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Re: Music at Theocratic Events
by pixel inthis is a crappy letter from the watchtower.
i'm only posting it to show how micro-managers these fools are.
and at the end, they say: "we should avoid making specific rules about somewhat technical matters".
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For those attending the sessions, it's a very reassuring sight to see suit-wearing bruvvers with furrowed brows and expressions of very serious concentration striding around the auditorium holding dB meters. I didn't mind helping out on the sound desk at conventions at all -- it was a wonderful way to avoid the sheer boredom of sitting in the stands listening to the shite with everyone else. I reckon if the org could find a way to give every bruvva a job to do so they could avoid sitting there, they would. -
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Thanks!
by Lightgrowsbrighter inthanks to all of the friends here at jwn who commented and encouraged me on my 1st and 2nd post.
it was pointed out that my 1st post was on page 5 of the recent elders thread and that i should properly introduce myself with a new thread.
the lightgrowsbrighter name is somewhat of play on words.
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Great to hear your story, Lightgrowsbrighter. My wife and I also found others drawing away from us for discussing some of the reservations we held about issues such as birthdays and field service reports.
We had a horrid weekend away with two other self-righteous JW couples -- including one young elder -- who spent most of the time rubbishing an elder in the congregation who was a bit of a thinker, very kind and also quite well-off. Over one restaurant meal it became quite nasty when I suggested there was something wrong with the drive to do MORE MORE MORE field service. They were disgusted with the gradual decline in average publisher hours; I suggested that possibly it was declining towards a level that Jehovah was comfortable with, so people could have more balance in their life and feel less pressure. The young arrogant elder stared at me and said, "That sounds like apostasy, brother."
I realised then that those who took the high moral ground always won any argument; those who took a more liberal approach were treated as suspect. By the time we did make the decision to quit meetings (April 2008) people were steering clear of us. We were invited to a gathering at someone's house for a wedding or engagement and left early when it dawned on us that no one would talk with us. No surprise perhaps that when we did quit meetings, there was no contact at all from elders or anyone else. Maybe they thought it was inevitable.
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Just watched a documentary on the Mormon church and I reckon they have got far more scandal and issues with BS doctrins than the witnesses ever did
by joe134cd inmust admit i didn't know a lot about the mormon church, so i decided to spend my saturday night exploring them on you tube.
after having viewed it i reckon the watchtower dosnt even come close to the scandal and total bs that surrounds the mormon church.
this is just 2 examples.
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I read Michael Bachelard's excellent book "Behind the Exclusive Brethren" and decided after that the JWs are amateurs when it comes to screwing up people's lives.
A lot of parallels: a huge amount of deception and self-deception, and a lust for control and vengeance. Arseholes the lot of them.
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Heading to Melbourne International Convention right NOW Regular updates live here!
by Witness 007 in9.10 am on the train heading in..how late am i?
train is full of witnesses and comic book characters...they have a comic convention.
they seem to be having more fun.. .
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Photos on The Age iPad app today show boys who look like 15 and one who would be 13 at most all lining up to be baptised. How many of those will live to regret it? At that age you can barely figure out what job you're looking at let alone signing yourself up for life for a high-control cult.
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Melbourne's Herald Sun -- "confessions of a Jehovah's Witness"
by MrMonroe inall the dubs pouring into melbourne, australia for the international convention gonna choke on their cornflakes when they read this .... http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/opinion/former-jehovahs-witness-lifts-lid-on-stifling-doomobsessed-religion/story-fni0ffsx-1227092921890.
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All the Dubs pouring into Melbourne, Australia for the international convention gonna choke on their cornflakes when they read this ...
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Question for those converted to JW as adults
by DaleRivers inwhy did you become a jw, what particular teachings attracted you to 'the truth' ?.
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in my case (baptized at 20/21) it was the only religion i knew; my mom, her mom, and favorite sister were jw; and the teachings of no hellfire or immortal soul made sense to me.. .
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@Pams girl, there is far more honesty and genuine care, thought and expression on this website than there is in the Jehovah's Witnesses. This website has a few dogmatic pains in the butt as well, but that's just life. My wife and I were fortunate enough to stumble on to another couple who were ex-JWs ... and then another, and then another and we often meet up to share our thoughts and common experiences ... and just vent. It has made a huge difference in reclaiming our lives. I'm so very glad you found us here.
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Question for those converted to JW as adults
by DaleRivers inwhy did you become a jw, what particular teachings attracted you to 'the truth' ?.
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in my case (baptized at 20/21) it was the only religion i knew; my mom, her mom, and favorite sister were jw; and the teachings of no hellfire or immortal soul made sense to me.. .
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I was raised as an Anglican but stopped attending sunday school and church when I was about 10, but still believed in God. Around 28 years old I began to wonder if you could find the real God if you looked closely at Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism etc and bought a book called What Man Believes that examined all the major religions. JWs came to my door and raised the prospect of living forever -- it seemed reasonable that that was God's original purpose. I swallowed the selective scriptures the JWs provided.
It was 1985 and I was scared of nuclear war and I was reassured by the JWs' claim that God would never allow man to destroy the earth. I was also greatly persuaded by the "fact" that only JWs used "God's name" and that they alone were sharing the "good news".
Yup, I swallowed the lot. It was only later, reading books by Ray Franz and others, that I realised how easily those seemingly rock-solid reasonings could be refuted, or at least challenged with equally convincing arguments. Which is why, of course, the JWs warned (and still warn) against reading writings of "apostates": they want their people to hear only one side of the argument.
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Let's suggest some programs for tv.jw.org
by rebel8 inweekday afternoons: a soap opera featuring judicial committees, demon possessions, and wives clamoring to be the ones who host the circuit overseer's lunch.
saturday mornings: sparlock cartoon.
friday evenings: reality show featuring jw dating.
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Cheaters: Camera crews secretly follow pioneers wasting time while claiming to be "in the work", then bust in on them in a coffee shop to confront them with the evidence.
Truth or Travesty: Panel game in which players are presented with a selection of outrageous statements "that may be" from old Watchtowers, Awakes and WTS books. Can they spot the fake ones among the real ones?
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Let's suggest some programs for tv.jw.org
by rebel8 inweekday afternoons: a soap opera featuring judicial committees, demon possessions, and wives clamoring to be the ones who host the circuit overseer's lunch.
saturday mornings: sparlock cartoon.
friday evenings: reality show featuring jw dating.
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You Be the Judge
Live judicial committee hearing. Audience gets to vote on what "Jehovah's judgment" is: Keep, expel or counsel.
This Wicked World
Wrap-up of the day's news from around the world, featuring only wars, earthquakes, diseases and demonic attacks. Anchors sign off with "And, sadly, that's the way it was today. We'll be back tomorrow ... if Armageddon doesn't come first."