You've come to the right place for advice. Just about all of us can understand what you are going through. Unfortunatly there is no easy answer becasue we all have different situations and handle things in a different way. The Org is not going to go easy on you whether you mail the letter or not. We all no what happenes when we leave. But if you stay and fake it or just try to be "inactive" they wont leave you alone with the guilt trips and emotional terrorism they are so good at. I feel bad for all those that go through what you are dealing with. Your right, you dont owe the elders any explanation for anything, this is your life, its none of their business. But it is your families business and it does affect them. The problem with JW's is they are all brainwashed and they wont even try to understand what you are dealing with, how you feel or even how hard this is for you. This is a good place for support, use it to the fullest, we are all here for you.
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MY LIST
by itsbeenalongtime ini have been doing a lot of thinking and...for some reason i keep saying to myself i should write a letter of dissociation...however at the same time i think its just a waste of time.
so i made a to do or not to do list.. i still cant make up my mind... so i thought i should show the list to everyone and maybe you guys could add to the list things i may be taking into account... thanks... .
not to mail the letter.
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1874
by PYRAMIDSCHEME indoes anyone know the last mention of 1874 in the orgs publications?
i am trying to pinpoint in their own literature when this was changed to 1914. i know the 1914 doctrine came into its "current understanding" around 1941, right?.
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Does anyone know the last mention of 1874 in the Orgs publications? I am trying to pinpoint in their own literature when this was changed to 1914. I know the 1914 doctrine came into its "current understanding" around 1941, right?
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Misunderstood relativistic fears
by Dogpatch inmore than 10,000 people have died in the japanese tsunami and the survivors are cold and hungry.
but the media concentrate on nuclear radiation from which no-one has died - and is unlikely to.. modern reactors are better designed than those at fukushima - tomorrow's may be better stillnuclear radiation at very high levels is dangerous, but the scale of concern that it evokes is misplaced.
nuclear technology cures countless cancer patients every day - and a radiation dose given for radiotherapy in hospital is no different in principle to a similar dose received in the environment.. what of three mile island?
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Wally, Wikipedia is not a good source for info. And of course Greenpeace is going to put the numbers high, it fits their agenda, same as the pro nuclear crowd are going to put the numbers low, it fits their aganda.
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Are you Victor Meldrew ?
by wobble inthis thread is apropos nothing in particular, except to ask, does modern life get you down too ?.
for those not familiar with mr meldrew, he is from a british sit-com and is a senior citizen who gripes and complains a lot .
there is a lot more to the sit-com than that, it is quite brilliant, but that is the pertinent point.. i went on national rail's site on thursday night to ask two simple questions, what time is the first train to london from my local station around 9am, and how much were they going to sting me for a ticket.. the site was worse than useless, no way could you get an answer to simple questions like that.. at one point it asked me if i would like to take part in a customer survey, so i did, i raved and ranted and insulted all through this survey, then it asked me my gender, then my age, at this point i paused before clicking "next", i could just see in my mind the next question:.
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Isnt Andy Rooney The U.S's version of Victor?
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oh the irony
by chickpea ini have agreed to meet tomorrow, saturday,.
at 9 am to organize in groups and then go.
door to door til around noon, sharing a .
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I hope you have a good "service" car.
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wts gb and money
by diamondiiz inwhat is stopping gb member from syphoning some cash to some offshore account and disappearing from brooklyn to live a good life?
i don't believe that all gb members believe all the shit found in their publications but if they could get their hands on some money couldn't they just disappear?
since ray franz has died i can't email him this sort of question.
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Yeah, maybe one of their bean counters or corporate lawyers could get their hands on it....God, sounds like Enron not a religion.
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oh the irony
by chickpea ini have agreed to meet tomorrow, saturday,.
at 9 am to organize in groups and then go.
door to door til around noon, sharing a .
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Dont forget to count your time!
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Do the governing body play God?
by TimothyT inim reading ray franz's book crisis of conscience!
it is brilliant!
he brings out some amazing points as to the credibility of the governing body!
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Ray mentions later in the book about followers of followers and victims of victims. And in reality thats all they are. Like the other 7million JW's around the world they honestly believe what they teach. Why? Because it's what they were taught. Like us, they were taught not to question, so they dont, not many do. Some wake up, most dont.
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Need help combatting disfellowshipping policy scripturally
by stuckinlimbo inhi i need some help to show that the scriptures used to uphold the disfellowshipping policy are actually only meant to apply to those that deny the christ blah blah.
not for me but someone close to me.
parents have disowned her.
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Este have you read the July 2009 Awake article "Is it wrong to change your religion"? Do you not think that is the heighth of hypocrisy?
NVR2L8 I'm sorry you missed 10 years but I am glad to hear you are spending time with your child again.
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Three brothers killed in plane crash in Honduras
by purplesofa inthree of our brothers reported to have died in plane crash .
from a news report published february 15, 2011:richland missionary dies in honduras plane crashflynn tomchuk was drawn to the central american country of honduras several times as a missionary for the jehovahs witness congregation in richland, most recently for a year-and-a-half on the island of roatan as a full-time minister.his father, robert tomchuk, said his son was impressed by the love the local people had for the bible and gods word.. it was in pursuit of his own passion for spreading that word that flynn tomchuk died monday at age 47.. tomchuk was one of 14 people killed when a small honduran commercial airliner crashed near the nations capital.. others among the dead were former and current senior government officials prompting the government to declare three days of national mourning and a union leader, the associated press reported.. the central american airlines plane was flying to the toncontin international airport in tegucigalpa when it crashed monday morning in las mesitas, a town about three miles south of the airport.. the cause of the crash is being investigated, but there was fog in the area at the time.
toncontin airport is considered dangerous because of its short runway and surrounding hills.. the let l-410 turbolet was carrying two pilots and 12 passengers, including rodolfo rovelo, assistant secretary for public works, jose israel salinas, a leader of the united workers federation of honduras and former economy secretary carlos chain, said airline manager felix pacheco.. im destroyed, in shock, because of what happened, pacheco told the ap.. at least 10 planes have crashed in and around the toncontin airport since october 1989, when a honduran commercial jet went down, killing 131 people.. toncontins short runway, old navigation equipment and neighboring hills make it one of the worlds more dangerous international airports.
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Thats too bad. It's sad to hear.