Even the catholic faith believes or had believed in a paradise earth. Look up cremation and how it was forbidden and banned by catholics and most christian faiths because cremation was said to be a rejection of a 'bodily resurrection'.
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Are Jehovah's Witnesses the only religion to teach a paradise earth?
by rory-ks ini have tried researching, but this pesky organisation always packs out the list.
you seem to have to drill down several layers before reaching christadelphians.. is it a recognised idea among other peoples/religions?.
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If Jehovah God Really Loved Humans & This Earth How Might He Show It?
by minimus insupposing that you might say that you believe in god, how might a god of love, show that he really cares about us all?.
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To be truly objective, this scenario should be considered as well. Think of all/any reasons God may have for not revealing himself and allowing suffering to happen.
1. Since he hasn't spelt out his purpose for us and reasons in a way that nobody can dispute as coming from him vs man, then if he does exist, before judging him, know that there may be reasons and this coarse of action he has taken in the end turns out being the absolute best of all scenarios.
Some possibilities on why hiding himself and allowing suffering could be part of a greater plan -
1. Allowing humans to LEARN the reasons why things are wrong vs just him stating laws.
2. As a parent who tells their child not to touch the stove because it's hot and they will get burned, if the child is nonstop reaching for the hot stove everyday to stop the child from ever touching it, they may eventually conclude since they are not listening they won't stop their child next time and after getting burned they won't do it anymore.
3. If God had been trying to rule and humans in the past had nonstop challenged him and wanted to rule themselves, now humanity is ruling themselves without him involved to see if it will ever work. Every type of human rule, government, monarchy, democracy, republic, communist, socialist, maybe future 'one world government', etc, "the times of the gentiles", to let humans see first hand and/or prove to themselves if they can rule themselves.
4. God has great plans in store for humans, involving life throughout the universe. He knows that people will obey/follow rule books if they know for sure it's from him, but he wants to see how 'good' they are if they feel he does not exist or maybe there is no future accountability, so he is testing the true character of people.
5. The end, and the new world have already occurred. Those of us on earth were the bad guys in another life. This is pretty much hell. The darkness the scriptures talk about are the darkness we are in for our own existance not knowing how we got here, why we are here, etc.. A. Along w/ this line of thought, we are being 'purified', in the fire, each suffering refines us and we are working our way to redemption. B. This is an eternal punishment for us, we can't die, so we are constantly reborn, always in darkness about our life.
I can think of more, but the point is there can be arguments on both sides. We can think if God is real there are things he should be doing or have done, but there is also the chance that there are valid reasons for things going the way they are.
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Questions From Readers : Did Jesus preach to the dead people of Noah's days?
by raymond frantz insorry guys i posted that the other day but with some of the actual post missing ,here it is again .please feel free to find errors,raise questions or fill me in with any more valueable information on the matter .i don't claim to know it all i'm just someone who's constantly looking for answers as most of you here :.
did jesus preach to the dead souls of people from noahs days?what does 1 peter 3:19, 20 mean?
in this state [in the spirit, following his resurrection] also he [jesus] went his way and preached to the spirits in prison, who had once been disobedient when the patience of god was waiting in noahs days, while the ark was being constructed, in which a few people, that is, eight souls [souls, kj, dy; people, tev, jb; persons, rs], were carried safely through the water.
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if I recall correctly, the book of enoch (fragments found in dead sea scrolls confirming authenticity), describes a few sets of spirits. the angels who rebelled who are currently imprisoned and the spirits of the nephilim (since 1/2 human 1/2 spirit) who are the 'demons' who wander the Earth.
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Armageddon is only a few weeks away...
by Calebs Airplane in"which generation is this?
why, the one that saw the beginning of fulfillment of jesus prophecy.
that means people alive in the year 1914. how many remain?
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You want to see a zombie apocalypse? Go to a kingdomhall during the Nov 2014 WT study bashing sessions. Sit in the front row and turn around and you'll see the glazed look on a whole crowd of zombies.
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Armageddon is only a few weeks away...
by Calebs Airplane in"which generation is this?
why, the one that saw the beginning of fulfillment of jesus prophecy.
that means people alive in the year 1914. how many remain?
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Or they may take the route from the book of Enoch or one of those books that brought out how during Noah's time when God mentioned 120 years, it was literally 120 years left remaining until the flood would hit. If the GB grabs that one, then they'll be saying it will come in 2034 lol.
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ISIS Kills American Soldier, Will Watchtower Speak Out Finally?
by BucketShopBill inhttp://www.tristatehomepage.com/story/d/story/isis-terror-group-kills-2nd-american-journalist/12500/0kjo7mxf0kalqvmlyykl-g.
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No, the GB is too afraid of losing their heads.
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The government should TAX the WT for the social services spent on JW's.
by EndofMysteries insince there is an abundant supply of literature where the gb tell members not to get education, not to plan for retirement, not to worry about their health, all vs doing more literature peddling, perhaps the government should stick a monthly bill to the wt for the social services, retirement, welfare, medicaid, etc, that is being spent on members because of their insisting that they don't take care of themselves and plan for the future.
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how quickly would 'new light' come that each member should plan for retirement, should get good schooling, etc??
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I agree w/ everything EXCEPT the walmart comment.
Minimum wage being raised, or forcing walmart and other minimum wage companies to increase wages will HARM vs help the economy. Minimum wage is not supposed to be a wage that is liveable on your own. Wages are also a product of supply and demand. If you don't like the wage, go to school, learn something that pays better and get at it. If nobody worked at walmart because they paid to little, they would increase the wage.
Also, people seem to not understand that increasing minimum wage does not mean that they will have the spending power of that wage as it stands today. If minimum wage is increased or companies forced to pay more, then it raises the prices everywhere. A person getting $8 an hour can buy a $3 or $4 burger. Force a wage increase to $12 an hour and then they can get a $5 or $6 burger. They are making more money but they can't buy anymore. So the poor remain exactly in the same spot, but those who get above minimum wage are the ones who get hurt.
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The Real Reason For No More Bookstudies.
by ctrwtf inso i was just thinking about my days at wtf and driving out for book study when it dawned on me.. bethelites are given a stipend for travel based on nyc public transportation.
depending on how you pay let's just call it a $5.00 round trip.. if you drive your care you're also reimbursed for mileage at the standard irs rate.
let's round that down to .50 per mile.. if four bethelites get in a car and drive an average of 30 miles to the (former) bookstudy the society is spending 4x$5.00 for the stipend plus and additional $30.00 for mileage.
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steve2 - in the rest of the world they have diesel hybrids and excellent public transportation that allows one to get anywhere as quick or quicker by train(some as fast as 300mph), tram, subway, etc than by car. In the USA we are spinned the story, "No selling of diesel hybrids and other cars that get 60 to 100mpg because nobody would want them", and if you take a train anywhere, expect it to take 4X or longer than driving.
I was in Switzerland, gas costs more, but all the vehicles got double/triple gas mileage, so it ended up costing the same or even less.
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A question JW's cannot answer (also need help)
by Matt_fs inman, its been years since i posted on here.
when i was in deep discussion with my very close jw friend, this forum helped me tremendously, so thank you all for your help and knowledge.. many years ago i went to my jw friends house with one sheet of paper with my notes and questions.
i had him stumped and he said he would get back to me (which he never did).. anyways, many years have passed without even discussing anything and just the other day he brought it up and wanted to see what he couldn't answer.
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The only thing I think you might be talking about then is in Revelation? About the first and the last, the alpha and omega? There are a few of those in revelation and I know the WT says one is Jesus and one is Jehovah or something to that effect.
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Why Europe Will Let Ukraine Go
by metatron inhttp://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htmurph/articles/20140831.aspx.
if the us wants war, they can pay for it and fight it.
world peace thru budgeting constraints would still be world peace.. .
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It's not that Europe doesn't care, it's that Europe is very smart. Many parts of Europe enjoy a very comfortable way of life. No unemployment, great health, benefits, etc. They know that if they don't do anything, the war mongering industrial complex in USA, with it's 500billion a year+ income, that was throwing a hissy fit because it wasn't getting a raise this year, will be all to happy to donate american lives and tax money so that they can get profit off of this.