Posts by dssynergy

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Suggest a coffee maker, please

by cameo-d in

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i can expect my coffee pots to malfunction usually about the time the year warranty runs out.

i have gotton the coffeemakers at jip*lmart for the last 10 years or more; none have lasted much longer than a year..ok maybe 18 months at the most.. anyway, since it stopped brewing, i have just been pouring hot water from stovetop over the coffee grinds....sort of the melita way, but it doesn't exactly f l o w like a melita.. i would like to have something non-electric like melita, but i hate that name now because it reminds me of jacarass's ill tempered wife.. can anyone recommend a good coffee maker?.

also, do you find any difference in the quality of a name brand product when it's sold at jip*mart as opposed to a place more upscale?.

dssynergy

I use a french press. I love it. The flavor is richer, and it is easy. Nothing to break unless you break the pot. :-)

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Is this a change in WT policy?

by cofty in

in the previous elder's manual was it a judicial offence if somebody persistently associated with a disfellowshipped person?

i am sure it ws when i was an elder.

was that not how they finally got ray franz?.

dssynergy

wasn't this specifically referring to family members?

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The Wheat and The Weeds

by dssynergy in

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does this parable apply to organizations (i.e, churches or religious groups) or individuals (you or i)?

i know the jws say that they are the wheat...but the application of this doesn't ring true... any thoughts?

?.

dssynergy

Does this parable apply to organizations (i.e, churches or religious groups) or individuals (you or I)? I know the JWs say that they are the Wheat...but the application of this doesn't ring true... Any thoughts??

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strange comment from elder at the meeting today

by Evidently Apostate in

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todays watchtower was especially nauseating but during the study one of them made the comment concerning the big a " jehovahs timetable is not contingent on all nations being saturated by the good news".

the study conductor reafirmed his point and then continued.. wait a fuggin minute!

there are 1.4 billion chinese on the earth and only 40 million profess christianity.

dssynergy

True, untouched territories still exist, and it may be that in Jehovah’s due time, a large door leading to greater activity will open. (1 Corinthians 16:9) Nevertheless, the Bible does not state that Jehovah will wait until every individual on earth has received a personal witness.Rather, the good news must be preached to Jehovah’s satisfaction. Then the end will come.—Compare Matthew 10:23.

It is comments like these that make me think the idea that Jehovah was only going to save JWs was incorrect. If he is a God of love and justice, then he would read people's hearts and save those who were worthy of it. And I believe that to be most people - there are very few genuinely evil people in the world. So, I never bought the idea that JWs would be the only "saved" at the Big A. DS

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I WAS CAUGHT emailing a pdf copy of the New Elders Book

by Smoky in

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i sent a .pdf to a few friends and one of them betrayed me and forward it to a elder i know, along with the emails of the recipients.

i cant believe i was so naive to think that i can trust someone..stupid.

i have not talked to the "benedict arnold" yet, but hopefully soon.

dssynergy

@Moshe: "You may get Df'd, but you definitely need to cloud the water so as to make it very hard for the WT legal dept. to file a lawsuit against you."

Wouldn't that be suing a "brother" and be against their own rules about taking a brother to court? Or, will they justify it and say that it is the corporation suing and not them? Or will they DF him first and then say he is not a brother at all?? UGH.

@Juan: anonymously email him/her a copy of The Book.

Just a general thought - you all know that you can get untraceable anonymous email accounts, right?? You could if you wanted email a copy of The Book to your entire body of elders in a congregation or a city, and they would never know where it came from. Sort of like the idea I saw on here about leaving pages of the Book laying around the KH. Ha!

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Marital Due and the KS

by yknot in

i just did a 'quick' search and 'marital due' doesn't appear to have made the 'list' of issues addressed in the ks!.

did i miss something?????

shouldn't the blantant repeated refusal (not justifiable under illness, ability, or discernable reason) be an issue addressed?.

dssynergy

@djeggnog : who do you think you are? Bleh.

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Keep Your Family, Follow Ray Franz' Example. Think Smart!

by believingxjw in

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i feel terrible for those who have lost their families.

after reading coc, and after the shock of it, many of us hurried to leave and hurried to get our families out only to find ourselves on the outs with our loved ones.

but is that the best or only option?

dssynergy

"keep quiet when the kids are pushed to get baptised and temporary pioneer. Keep quiet when they are encouraged to apply to Bethel, keep quiet when they want to rush into a young marriage with a JW they barely know, who comes from a good JW family of window washers."

Uh, I'm all for not making waves, but I don't agree with the strategy stated above. I've got children in my family that I will encourage to think long and hard about baptism, and to wait as long as possible. I will remind them that Jesus was an adult when he dedicated himself and that no one has the right to push them to do something they are not ready for. Same with Bethel, or marriage. I'm going to have frank discussions with them about college or trade school. They need to support themselves. And especially no getting married too young. Geesh.

I don't believe in making unneccessary waves, but I can't stand by without saying something to the children in my family about what their real options are. I don't want them to make choices without all the information.

DS

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Thanks to you - I think I bought myself some time....

by dssynergy in

so i've been working out of town the last month and i'm back home for a couple of weeks to attend a conference and some business meetings.

my mom while i was away has been concerned about my meeting attendance (haven't gon in almost a year, except memorial) - even when i was home she was concerned.

so today, when we met up for dinner - inevitibly, my meeting attendance came up as a topic of concern.

dssynergy

and just for the record...I didn't start a church. oy! What a bruhaha THAT would be...to say nothing of how much work it is.UGH.

To my mom's credit she did say "I don't want you doing this for me. You have to do it for yourself." I did tell her I don't think being a spiritual person comes naturally for me. I'm spiritual, but not religious. And right now, I just don't care. She took it well.

What I want is to just live a normal life, free of the pressure of going to the KH. Working out of town a lot has helped, I'm enjoying living in a place where no one knows me at all. It is very freeing. I don't have to worry about being seen and reported, "found out"or that I might offend someone. I've put my life on hold following the rules, and now I'm tired. I deserve to have a family, and people who like me just for who I am, not because I meet some quota or attend a certain amount of meetings a month.

Sounds reasonable to me.

DS

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Thanks to you - I think I bought myself some time....

by dssynergy in

so i've been working out of town the last month and i'm back home for a couple of weeks to attend a conference and some business meetings.

my mom while i was away has been concerned about my meeting attendance (haven't gon in almost a year, except memorial) - even when i was home she was concerned.

so today, when we met up for dinner - inevitibly, my meeting attendance came up as a topic of concern.

dssynergy

No - I didn't mention the church I started....haha!

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Thanks to you - I think I bought myself some time....

by dssynergy in

so i've been working out of town the last month and i'm back home for a couple of weeks to attend a conference and some business meetings.

my mom while i was away has been concerned about my meeting attendance (haven't gon in almost a year, except memorial) - even when i was home she was concerned.

so today, when we met up for dinner - inevitibly, my meeting attendance came up as a topic of concern.

dssynergy

So I've been working out of town the last month and I'm back home for a couple of weeks to attend a conference and some business meetings. My mom while I was away has been concerned about my meeting attendance (haven't gon in almost a year, except memorial) - even when I was home she was concerned. So today, when we met up for dinner - inevitibly, my meeting attendance came up as a topic of concern.

She's talked to me about it a few months before - and really it is out of motherly concern. I ascribe no negative motivations to her. And after examining the root of why I am not going to meetings now - it came down to this: I'm depressed and I just don't care. So that is what I told her. I think now that I said it, she will not apply any more pressure on me for a while.

At one point, she did ask "well, do you not believe the truth?" - I told her I do believe the truth - and I do here and there. I didn't see any reason to bring up my own doubts or concerns. That would just cause more panic on her end.

so - at the end of it all - I think she won't push it too much, although after a while she will mention it again just so she feels like she did her duty. I think I bought myself some time.

And I have to attribute my success in some part to the cool headedness afforded to me by reading all of your experiences (successes and mistakes). It really helped me to attain my goal of fading while causing as little upset among my family and friends as possible, and maintaing contact with those I love.

xoxoxox

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